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What a great, great movie. Questions arise, though....


Expertly acted, totally professionally done, a plot that asked more questions then it answered... this is the kind of movie i think about for a long time after i watch it.

Questions arise, like how could Vera be so cheerful & happy when she's doing something usually thought as as very immoral? What are the spiritual ramifications of doing something like that for so many years? What would God think of Vera Drake? Was giving abortions just one of those things she just gradually grew callous to throughout the years, or was she always like that? Or was she just lacking in conscience? She didn't seem to be, but...

I think abortion should be legal, it is a necessary evil. I know Vera Drake gave abortions for free, but could you yourself legally give abortions for a living five days a week? I don't think i could. What kind of person does it take to do that?

This is the kind of movie that was so well done that you can compare it to other movies, to see how they hold up against it.

Grade: A.

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"Questions arise, like how could Vera be so cheerful & happy when she's doing something usually thought as as very immoral?"

Because she doesn't feel it's immoral.

"What are the spiritual ramifications of doing something like that for so many years? What would God think of Vera Drake?"

Well, it depends on the person, and who knows what god thinks?

"Was giving abortions just one of those things she just gradually grew callous to throughout the years, or was she always like that? Or was she just lacking in conscience? She didn't seem to be, but..."

She seemed to be okay with it, and although the movie does not get into it, it seems like she has some personal experience that helped her make her decision to do abortions.


"I know Vera Drake gave abortions for free, but could you yourself legally give abortions for a living five days a week? I don't think i could. What kind of person does it take to do that?"

Well, it wasn't legal for her to do it at the time. There are many motives for doing illegal abortions, some just wanted the money and others, like Drake, cared about her patients.

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"Questions arise, like how could Vera be so cheerful & happy when she's doing something usually thought as as very immoral?"

Because she doesn't feel it's immoral.

---- Just because someone doesn't feel somethings immoral doesn't make it moral.

"What are the spiritual ramifications of doing something like that for so many years? What would God think of Vera Drake?"

Well, it depends on the person, and who knows what god thinks?

--- Read the Bible. That might be able to give you a bit of a clue.

This is pretty good:

http://www.gotquestions.org/abortion-Bible.html

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"Read the Bible. That might be able to give you a bit of a clue."

Ah, so you weren't here to ask questions, you were here to preach. Gotcha.


Hey! Who turned out the lights?

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heynow123 wrote --- Read the Bible. That might be able to give you a bit of a clue.


Yes, it will. It will give me a clue as to what the men who wrote the Bible think about it.

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@heynow123 Just because someone doesn't feel somethings immoral doesn't make it moral.
Yes, but it does allow someone to be so cheerful & happy when she's doing it, which is what your question was about.

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A good solid answer, wesisaleo.

What one must remember is that women have abortions, no matter. Wheather it is leagal or not, they will have an abortion. The legal part of it, just brings the question whether the abortion will be safe or not. The minute it's illegeal, women will turn to "wise ladys", knitting needles, quacks or whatever. Vera wanted to help these women, who'd turn to desperate ways no matter. She used the soap and water, which was the safest way avaliable, when operations weren't to be afforded.

The theories about why Vera would do this for so many years is varied. Some in this thread say she could have been raped.
Actually I believe she, herself, was a product of rape (her mother was raped). There's a scene where Veras husband asks "did you ever ask who your father was?", which could prove that Veras parents where never married. Vera could have felt on her body how it is to be an illegitemate child. She might not have wanted others to experience the same.

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They blew up Congress!!! HAHAHA!

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Questions arise, like how could Vera be so cheerful & happy when she's doing something usually thought as as very immoral?


I found myself becoming uncomfortable with her seemingly cheerful and somewhat detached disposition when she was dealing with her patients, but then I wondered if this matter of fact approach was somethng which supported her patients and helped reinforce in themselves that they were doing the right thing.

As a poster in another thread mentioned, how do we know that other procedures hadn't gone wrong? Susan had her mother there when the infection flared up, but what about the young West Indian woman and the woman whose husband was in the army and raised the issue with Vera? I feel that she honestly thought providing the procedure was helping the girls, but I don't think she considered the ramifications of what she was doing. I am not casting aspertions on her morality. As another poster observed, when asked during questioning if this had happened to her she was unable to answer - my feeling is that it HAD and that her contentment with her family life before the arrest helped justify her actions of 'helping' others in this way. I don't think that she had considered that the end result for others may not be the same.

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I believe she stayed cheerful to put the women at ease. They were probably feeling frightened and possibly ashamed and/or sad to be requiring the abortion in the first place.

Vera's attitude also made abortion seem more acceptable so as to dispel the worry that the women may have thought that they were doing something 'wrong'.

I'm not saying I think she always necessarily felt 'good' about what she was doing, but she certainly felt she was helping these women and so that was a good thing. She was providing a much-needed service.

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