Why do the boys have such weak powers?

the two boys powers are rip offs from the invisible woman and mr fantastic from the fantastic four.

"Everybody's Gotta Have A Dream" - DJay From Hustle & Flow

Yeah, more of a reversal of a ripoff, for the sake of political correctness.

Man this flick looks like a steaming pile.

Are we sure this isn't "Shark Boy & Lava Gril 2"?

wow i read this and i agreed with sum *beep*
but who the hell is so bored they right a *beep* paper arguement?
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<quote>Now, here's what I don't get: you're willing to be sexist (what, boys have to have strong active powers, but girls have to have weak passive powers?), but God forbid you come off as racist. Of *course* they are all white - to the best of my understanding, they're siblings, right? Personally, I'm sick of everyone being so afraid of stepping on toes that the PC crap has gone extreme. But, hey, you're entitled to your opinion, sexist as it is. If you don't like the movie (even though you haven't seen more than the trailer), don't go see it. Or go see it, whatever, you're only punishing yourself by going to see something you've already decided you won't like, which is, to be blunt, stupid.</quote>

Kiss your parents at the bus stop, 'cause I'm taking you to school.

1) I NEVER ONCE said, or even implied, that girls had to have weak, passive powers. Don't put words in my mouth. Ideally, NO ONE should have weak, passive powers. I wasn't putting boys over girls in any way, shape or fashion. If that's how you chose to interpret my statement, than that's your problem, not mine. Why don't you read my entire post before jumping to conclusions when you don't even know me or even understand what it is that I'm saying? You'd look a lot less foolish that way.

2) FYI, you only said that the kids in "Zoom" MIGHT be siblings. If they are, then it's only logical that they all belong to the same race. That should be obvious to anyone who isn't a retard. And even if they ARE siblings, they still didn't have to be white. They could have just as easily been black siblings, or Asian siblings, or whatever. Quite frankly, I fail to see how wanting to see some different colors in theatres once in a while makes me a racist. Do you even know what that word means? I'm NOT anti-white. I'm just pro-other races. The point I was trying to make was this; Where is it carved in stone that all super/magic/fantasy characters have to be white? Show me what plaque that's enscribed on and I'll recind my statement. If you knew me, then you would know that I'm the exact opposite of a racist. Accusing me of being one because of this one post is ignorant and absurd to the point of being laughable.

3) You can call me all the mindless names that you want, but I still say that invisibilty is a weak superpower. If he has other powers, then that's a little better, but invisibility by itself is very limited. Even Stan Lee and Jack Kirby came to this realization with Sue Richards of the Fantastic Four. That's why he later decided to give her the power to manipulate force field energy.

You want a drink to wash the taste of foot out of your mouth?

OK. First off, let me just say that I am Jason's brother (hence the same last name); I am NOT just him responding to his own post. That said:

<quote>Okay, see this is one more example of what is truly wrong with the cinema these days: the audience. You people have no imagination whatsoever.</quote>

Statements like "You people" are VERY condescending and should be avoided whenever possible. And the last time I checked, it's the AUDIENCE who pays their hard-earned money to go see the movies that these wannabe-auteurs try to shove down our throats and then expect us to make them richer by purchasing all the merchandise and product tie-ins. It's the audience's business that keeps the movie business going, so you'd do well to not diminish their opinions/input.

<quote>"Oh, boo hoo, the boy has invisibility for a power, he can't do anything." Well, let's think about that now. He can escape detection and sneak into virtually anyplace he wants to gain valuable information. Being invisible allows him an incredible advantage in a fist fight, since it's pretty damn hard to hit what you can't see, and makes it very easy to blindside someone. And considering you've seen nothing more than the trailer, how exactly do you "know" he has no other powers? Maybe he's like Shadowcat and can phase. Or maybe he can fly. Maybe, like Invisible Woman, he can project force bolts (though that's unlikely, if the girl has TK powers).</quote>

IF he does indeed have other powers besides just invisibility, then that is infinitely better. But this is all speculation; in all likelyhood he doesn't, given that the other kids all possess only one superpower each. And sure, not being able to seen may give someone an advantage in a fight, if their opponent is an average person, but suppose the other guy is a Feral, who can track people by scent, or a Psionic whith extra-sensory perception, or a cyborg or android, who has the ability to see in infrared? ANY scenario such as those, and Invisible Boy immediately loses his major advantage. By your own argument, you've just proven Jason's opinion correct: that invisibility alone is of very limited use overall. Sue Richards was just the Fantastic Four's tagalong gal pal before Stan Lee and Jack Kirby decided to expand on her powers by adding the force field generation. She sure didn't become one of the most formidable women in the Marvel universe and co-leader of the F4 by just not being seen!

<quote>As for Spencer Breslin, he has the power of elongation/plasticity. In other words: he is essentially incapable of being physically harmed. Bullets, knives, basically anything short of a missile would simply stretch his skin rather than puncture it. Not to mention the whole kinetic attack thing. Ever seen a Super Ball bounce? Now imagine that super ball, but about 50 times its size, ramming into someone. That's a hell of a lot of kinetic energy hitting you, and if you think you'll survive a hit like that without ending up with a tube up your nose, you really don't know what reality is.</quote>

You can try to justify it all you want, but the harsh reality is that VERY FEW people are loking at Spencer's power and saying, "Wow, that's really cool!" In truth, 9 out of 10 of them are just laughing at it. After all it's hard not to laugh at the notion of a fat kid whose superpower is blowing up like a balloon, regardless of how effective it is in battle. For all outward appearances, it just appears to be comic relief.

<quote>Now, here's what I don't get: you're willing to be sexist (what, boys have to have strong active powers, but girls have to have weak passive powers?), but God forbid you come off as racist.</quote>

OK, I've read Jason's post about 3 or 4 times now, and I still have yet to see where he said or even implied that boys have to have strong active powers but girls have to have weak passive powers. It looks to me like you just jumped to that conclusion all by yourself or are just reading things which aren't there. If you will recall, his opening statement was that the girls both had DECENT powers, and that he felt that was cool. (I agree with this, although in the case of the younger girl, I personally wouldn't want just strength alone, but that's beside the point.) As was stated previously, ideally EVERY TEAM MEMBER should possess strong, active powers, regardless of a character's gender. If the GIRLS had cheesy powers, I'm sure he'd find that objectionable. Based on what I'm seeing, you just went off on a sexism tirade for no reason, 'cause he never once said that. And wanting to see more than just white actors getting a wide variety of roles including sci-fi/fantasy ISN'T racist, nor is it enforced Political Correctness. Why is it so wrong to want to see some non-white superheroes once in a while? Would it really have hurt the story of the movie if some or all of the kids had been non-white? I don't think so. So what I don't get is why you're getting so p***ed off over nothing and being so closed-minded to new ideas and concepts.

I'm only saying this in relation to Zoom because I'm a comic fan and there's nothing wrong with the comics. Most comics feature women with powers that allow them to avoid physical contact, telekenisis, Telekenetic, Energy Powers ect, Rarely would you see a vast amount of strong female characters like She-Hulk. Since this is a "Tim Allen teaches kids about something" movie they give the girls the cool powers such as super strength.

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