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A huge clue in the movie noticeable for second time viewers


In the middle of the movie when David turns the stove on to heat the kettle you see him leave the room for maybe 20 seconds and then when he returns the water is boiling and overflowing telling you that the stove has been on for a while, not just a minute.

The first time I saw this movie I didn't pick up on it because I wasn't sure who the killer was. I'm not the type who comes on these boards AFTER seeing a movie and pretending that it was "obvious" who the killer was. No one knows for sure who the killer is during a first time viewing. You THINK you know, or have a hunch or you GUESS the killer. But you do not know.

But the stove scene tells you something. Charlie had gone up and visited Emily right after David turned the stove on. We can assume he's up there for 10-20 minutes and then he changes back over to David and since he has no memory of things he assumes it has only been a minute since he put the kettle on. Clever, but only something you can notice on a second viewing. It wouldn't register on the first one

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This was my second time, but the stove thing never kicked in because things happen so fast in movies anyway. Even after I had seen this movie, I forget how it ended(so memorable) anyway.

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There are a lot of clues who to Charlie is. The waking up at 2.06 and her father is always so sweaty, something I picked up when I first saw it. Also if you look at the pictures Emily drew of Charlie you can see that she drew glasses on Charlie, her dad also wears glasses. I noticed the kettle but I was more like "That kettle boiled over way too quickly".

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There are a lot of clues who to Charlie is. The waking up at 2.06



yeah that was a big clue.


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I noticed a lot of time gaps in the movie that I took notes of in my mind, the first viewing. It focuses in on him with his headphones on after a scene with Charlie. This didn't fool me, it clued me in on the fact that just because the scenes happened one behind the other, it doesn't mean that time couldn't have passed between scenes. There could have been enough time for him to go downstairs after the bath scenes. The fact that he is having flashbacks and waking up the same time at night means that he is not exactly this stable Psychologist that he appears to be. Also, what kind of credentialing???? This is the second time since Dressed To Kill that I am wondering if Hollywood gives just anybody a practitioner license.

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I agree! I've seen this movie at least 4 times and NEVER picked that up until I read about it here!! Darn! Now I gotta watch it again!

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It's always easier to pick up the little pieces when seeing it a second time, especially since you already know the answer to all the tricks the writer/director used to keep the audience guessing but just enough bread crumbs to make it believable. The most noticable is the kettle scene. There are other scenes throughout but mainly the time gaps was a major play, somehow he always had his dang earphones on when his daughter was wondering who knows where and then he would awake 5 hours later on a couch. Lets just say it wasn't him, you think a 1) dad and 2) psychologist would leave their 'not well' daughter alone and free to do whatever while you always have your earphones on.

I remember seeing this when I was in high school, it was after a basketball game that we won. My dad wanted to treat to a movie, I chose this one. My dad is an very intelligent guy who always analyzes every scene in a movie, once he saw the kettle scene he wispered to me, ok I know who it is. Afterwards, he did explain that from the early middle the movie was trying too hard to blame other people as being Charlie and the scenes with De Nero throughout the movie was just too strange. He said he figured it too early in the movie. At my age, I enjoyed it, but at the end I did feel it was lacking in something, however, I was one of those people who just couldn't figure out who Charlie was until the ending.

Watching it a second time, I wasn't too impressed with De Niros performance, especially with the Charlie scene.

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My God, why would you bother a second time!

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I cottoned on roughly halfway through the film, probably the 3rd time he was having a flashback of going to a reception of some kind with his wife. I figured he caught his wife in the act, and killed her later. Normally in these films, flashbacks are used to tell us that the protagonist most likely tried to suppress the memories.

Decent acting, predictable story.

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Wrong.
It wasn't a "guess" half way during the movie even before that scene I knew he was Charlie.
The answer on how is "Cliche"
the main character always turns out to be the insane one,killer, etc.

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Wow that sucks for you watching movies. I hate when I figure it out that soon. Which is usually what happens. So far this and the Sixth Sense are the only two movies that have ever surprised me (that I can think of)

Would a Cupcake kill you?

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Sixth Sense is the only one for me too that completely took my by surprise. I honestly thought the kid was a ghost at first (don't ask why lol)

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What about The Usual Suspects, The Empire Strikes Back, and Unbreakable?

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I have to admit that the film took me by surprise, when we find out Charly is really De Niro. But then it shows the scene where David follows his wife and finds her unfaithful, so he smothers her with a pillow and kills her. He puts her in the bath tub and fakes the suicide. Surely would not CSI find out that she indeed was suffocated???

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@pambosk: Maybe he only held the pillow over her until she passed-out but didn't die. Then he moved her to the tub and she was too weak to fight back.

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There's also the moment right after the stove scene where he goes upstairs to ask his daughter if Charlie was there and she said he just left, then he noticed the window was open and asked if she opened it and she says "I thought you did."

"At first I didn't know it was your diary. I thought it was a very sad, hand-written book."

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That might have been the intention with the kettle scene, but that's not the effect it had on me due to execution.

David puts the kettle on and leaves the room. Next time we see it, it looks much more full than it should be. And making tea/coffee for 1 person, he wouldn't fill it that much. It was overflowing as it boiled, so I thought someone (Charlie, before knowing it was him) had put more water in it. Why? No clue....

When a kettle has been boiling for a while, the water in it lessens due to the escaping steam. Eventually it'll completely evaporate and the kettle's bottom will burn.

So as a first time viewer (there won't be a second), I saw it as the kettle being over it's capacity for holding boiling water. Not that he was gone a while, because that's not the realistic outcome. How anyone came to that conclusion confuses me.

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Good point, I didn't spot it even on second viewing but I'm sure your interpretation is correct.

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