All that hatred over a PARTY?! - Speak (2004) Discussion

[–] rainstorm1 15 years ago

yea, there would be more parties, and parties get busted by the cops all the time, and people get over it. it bothered me that people were so mad at her for something so little, and so stupid.

picture me rollin...

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[–] merlinsbearddd 15 years ago

I remember in the book, one girl said that because Melinda called the cops, the girl's brother got in trouble and was fired from his job. So I'm guessing everyone hated her mostly because she got a lot of people in trouble, so those people hated her. Then, of course, the friends of those people are going to hate her, and the friends of those friends, and so on. Plus, they probably think she's a total downer for doing that.

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[–] Madonna-whore 15 years ago

I don't think she really meant to call the cops, she was in a state of shock, at one point it looked like she was going to say something to her "friend" Rachel, but the bitch slapped her and she probably thought that nobody would believe or understand her, she saw the lot of fair-weather-bitch friends she really had, and her parents were not really concerned with her, and she thought "well... who's gonna care? I'll be humiliated, they'll say it's my fault, I was drinking, I let him kiss me, I agreed to go somewhere else by myself with him, I brought this on myself". Thankfully, it's never happened to me, but I've read some cases where rape victims don't say anything because they think it's their fault somehow.

She was just confused, in an immense amount of physical and emotional pain, so she did the first thing she thought of, call the cops. But then she just stays in shock and says nothing. I think she just wanted help.

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[–] yoo 14 years ago

I don't understand why you have to rationalize this. Was raped, called cops, simple as that.

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[–] TheDirtyLollipop 14 years ago

I love this movie, but yah this part always kind of bugged me and I found it a little unrealistic. Teenagers have a short memory and as big of a party it was, it's impossible EVERYBODY got in trouble. Parties get busted all the time, it happens, you get over it.

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[–] Post_Secrets 14 years ago

Oh Yeah.

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[–] yoo 14 years ago

I think it was done very well in the movie. Teens are dumb, and after a while it gets self-fulfilling, ie. she becomes unpopular for being unpopular.

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[–] branenj001 14 years ago

Teenagers do NOT have a short memory for drama. Once you are considered a "rat" it follows you from Jr high until you graduate and get out of that small town. Kids/teens are cruel and do NOT forget anything embarassing or a situation such as someone calling the cops, for whatever reason, if it meant the party got busted up and people got in trouble. Nicknames stick with people for YEARS. I knew a girl in jr high who was new to the school and got picked on daily. One day she came home crying (like many days before) and her mother had had enough. Without the girls knowledge, and most definatly against her wishes (because as anyone bullied knows, your parents getting involved makes it that much worse) the mother went to the school and had a meeting with the guidance counselor, principle and the kids that were harassing her. Yeah, lets just say the girl hated her mother for awhile, because half the 8th grade class started harassing her and calling her a rat after that, despite the fact that she had NO idea her mother did such a thing until AFTER it happened.

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[–] branenj001 14 years ago

Teenagers do NOT have a short memory for drama. Once you are considered a "rat" it follows you from Jr high until you graduate and get out of that small town. Kids/teens are cruel and do NOT forget anything embarassing or a situation such as someone calling the cops, for whatever reason, if it meant the party got busted up and people got in trouble. Nicknames stick with people for YEARS. I knew a girl in jr high who was new to the school and got picked on daily. One day she came home crying (like many days before) and her mother had had enough. Without the girls knowledge, and most definatly against her wishes (because as anyone bullied knows, your parents getting involved makes it that much worse) the mother went to the school and had a meeting with the guidance counselor, principle and the kids that were harassing her. Yeah, lets just say the girl hated her mother for awhile, because half the 8th grade class started harassing her and calling her a rat after that, despite the fact that she had NO idea her mother did such a thing until AFTER it happened.

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[–] pammigal 9 years ago

Well, for starters, she's an incoming Freshman going to a high school party. This means a few things:

1. she should be lucky to even have been invited to said party
2. she should just soak up the awesomeness of her first HS party and try her best to find her social footing at the party.
3. she should NOT by ANY MEANS act childish and irrational and do something so socially reprehensible as calling the cops.

This, of course, is how her peers feel about the matter. Teen brains work a little different than adult brains, of course. And high school, though in the grand scheme of things is not really all that important, to someone just starting Freshman year, is a HUGE ORDEAL.

So, needless to say, her friends are really upset with her because her actions, by proxy, reflect negatively on them. That is why they must essentially distance themselves from her in some way. They, too, must try to stay afloat in the social waters of a HS. And being an incoming Freshman, they have alot of "proving" to do as is.

Now, as a rational adult would likely gather, none of what the main character does warrants total isolation from her peers. But, if you can put yourself in the shoes of her so-called "friends" at that particular time, you can see why they would distance themselves from her. Not that it was right. It was just a necessity.

Now why the other kids decided to harass her? I don't know. They were just *beep* with a hive mentality, I guess.

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