So confused...

I have just finished watching this movie and also found certain aspects of it confusing. I'll give you my interpretation of what I think happened but no doubt other posters will come along with their own theories. Here goes:

First off; why did the guy who died at the very end, as well as the one in the beginning, turn into those weird pink thingers? They'd been possessed by, or turned into demons. That's what the pink things were.

Is it because they went into the property and now they're just messed or what? The original owner of the plantation's wife died of "consumption" (pulmonary tuberculosis) and he perfomed a spell to raise the dead which involved sacrificing his slaves and children and it all went horribly wrong and they all turned into demons and anyone who came into contact with the un-dead also became demons.

Secondly, why did that guys head fall off (the guy who was tied to the cross, who was still alive; Josheph I think his name was) when he was alive a second before? His eyes and lips were sewn shut so William asked Annabelle for her knife to undo his "stitches" and then Clyde put up a fight and I guess in the struggle, Clyde's head got severed. I assumed it was Clyde on the cross because he was the one who found the hideous doll with the stitched face and that's how he ended up.

Thirdly, what was with that dog at the end? How did he get there and why did he turn into that scary thing? The dog had been part of the group from the beginning but disappeared early in the film. It had obviously realised, as animals do, that something was N.Q.R. with the house, but looks like the demons got to him too!

And finally, what ever happened to Todd (the black guy)? Did he die? I guess we can only assume so. After his encounter with demon-Sam, he disappeared into thin air. Having watched the "making of" section on the DVD, originally it was decided that at the end of the film, Todd would step out from the corn rows with two bags of gold in his hands but they decided against it coz it was was "stupid" and the audience wouldn't buy it.

Oh wait... and what's with the title? What does it have to do with anything? Are those pink thingers supposed to be "birds" or what? This is one I'm not really sure on. When they first got to the house, William stepped on a dead bird. And someone referred to there being nothing but dead birds there ie. no people, livestock, modes of transport etc. Just dead birds. Maybe there's some old legend about dead birds - you know, birds dropping from the sky; an omen of evil or something. I don't think the pink creatures were birds. They were what the people turned into after they'd been killed then brought back to life.

Of course, all of the above is merely IMHO and I'd love to hear what other people thought!

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First off; why did the guy who died at the very end, as well as the one in the beginning, turn into those weird pink thingers? Is it because they went into the property and now they're just messed or what?

as some else said, they wer demons and apparently thats what they looked like. My theory is that as the only living person left and as the criminal that killed the child at the start of the movie he was destined to become that pink thing.

Secondly, why did that guys head fall off (the guy who was tied to the cross, who was still alive; Josheph I think his name was) when he was alive a second before?

That guy is both dead and possessed. When William trys to cut the stitches he goes to bite him. As someone else also said he was stuffed with straw like a scarecrow. When he tried to bite william they pushed him back and his head fell off, William and Bell did not actually cut off his head.

Thirdly, what was with that dog at the end? How did he get there and why did he turn into that scary thing?

In the version I saw they cut two scenes from the movie that showed the dog. One when they first go into the house, william calls the dog and it doesn't move and he says "Sam, that things *beep* useless". The next one cut was a little while later, the front door swings open as the dog is growling and snarling and he runs off into the corn. The fat crim says "Something spooked im", Todd and a white guy goes looking for the dog but they can't find him, he is in the corn where he remains until the end. The dog DOES NOT turn into anything. The dog knows that William is possessed and wants to get away from him.

And finally, what ever happened to Todd (the black guy)? Did he die?
He was blown into dust, I think that pretty much means he is dead, never to return.

The title, well there is a discussion about that in a another thread. It was supposed to be intelligent, an allegory to the criminals as "dead birds" - that didn't work and neither did that feeb of a dead bird he so unceremoniously stuck in there.

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Cool locations for the movie, interesting story but, it didn't pan out for me. I got the feeling that Curtwood Smith's character (the shrink) had something to do with the whole thing. Anybody else? Maybe I'm reading too much into it.

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I'm going to weigh my interpretation to see how it goes with other fans.

From what I percieved, as a mix of Amityville 3-d and Hellraiser, the original owner had opened a gate to hell that he could not control. Running with The Grudge, the "stained" house infected everyone who entered. This brought a connection with the dead giving free range to atleast take the form of anyone that died. The soldier that told them to go there had only known about the farm because he was there when the land owner was killed.

Then again, in the grudge the sister dies even though she never sets foot in the house. That's one dojo I'd like to disrespect.

But same basic The Grudge rules apply. Anyone who enter's the house dies whether you know where they go or not. The images of the dead are fair game for any of the demons. Assume the dog died along with the horses. The demons used his form to get to woman killed. The demons used the kids form to drive the land owner insane. The demons used the form of the soldier to drive 2 people crazy.

It's all about what Mr. Crowley describes as "do as you will." (I think it was mr. crowley that said that). The point is that there are no rules. The devil is absense of light, absense of rules, absense of morals. A true depiction of the devil is after he's raised, he kills the person that raises him. He kills everyone especially those who help them. "Even the pagans love the ones that love them" so why would the demons simply be pagans?

Mostly it's just being scary. Everyone goes. For some a missing person is worse than knowing they're dead. I'm sure there are soldiers out there that prefer to have died than be a POW. Also think of "They." People with night terror's just disapeared into an unkown. A serious improvement onto the fear of the dark. If you're afriad of nothingness, imagine being turned literally into nothingness.

o.k. I'm rambling but just picture the idea of Chaos. Anti-rules, anti-matter, and anti-reality was unleashed and this is what it produced. Next time it may just turn apples into oranges.

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What was the name of that movie with the line "and this is for the times that directors waited to the last two minutes of the movie to throw in a new "twist' that just confuses everybody and makes no sense!" I'm paraphrasing here, of course, but jeez.. I was okay with the movie until the last scene, and then I just got angry. The movie wasn't fantastic but until that point it was relatively logical. That last scene... just completely *beep* with my brain, and left me wondering what the hell I just watched. And, when I tried to reconstruct the film in my brain, it still didn't make sense!

yea i am a little confused too ...
At the end he shoots a person not an animal ...or at least we think so , maybe he doesnt realize he is a demon so the only one whos sees him as the demon is the dog and the person who shot him ....who knows ? anywayz i also think the other DOG DID !! turn into a monster, because when the guys at the end are walking through the field after they find the gold they say " heres another one" i dont know if they mean another DOG or another piece of gold. .

... i think the dog was turning and when he bit the main character, he started to change

Ok so I got this movie from a $5 bin and I think it was $5 well spent.
About all the confusion: From the beginning to end

-The first demon in the corn fields was a person who had come upon the house before the main characters. This would explain all the footprints in the dust on the floor and why they changed to demon prints. The house and the spirits in it possess all who enter.

-I don't really know why Todd was turned to dust. I guess thats just how he was suppossed to die. I was kinda hoping that the light was him being expelled through some kind of barrier and that we would see him at the end, but I think he just got dustified. The only reason I can think of to explain his special death is that he was the main one who wasn't greedy.

-When Clyde's head falls off it is because he is a demon who is filled with straw. Belle kicks him in the head when he goes to attack Will.

-The dog attacks Will because will is a demon, the audience just doesn't see it yet; neither does Will. But Dog does. As they are running, we see shots of demon, thats Will not the dog. And as he exits the corn as a man we are still just seeing him as he sees himself. The other soliders see a demon and shoot it. Also, when the two soliders start walking into the field and say "Here's another one." They mean,"here is another demon" Talking about Belle.

-The house is possessed by the demons the Father conjured up trying to bring his dead wife back to life. The group of robbers may have been sent by Jeffy because William got with Belle even though he knew Jeffy loved her. The demon before that probably was a deserter who happened upon the house by chance. The story comes full circle because anyone who enters the house becomes a demon and is killed if they try to leave the property.