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Europe Version vs USA Version


Amazing, i just saw booth version and the Europe version is like for Kids compare to USA Version, is almost another movie (At least the first half), none of the gore scenes are in the Europe version

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The european version focuses more on substance rather than style
americans love gore because their brainwashed repatidly believing they are the greatest nation on earth and can engage with anybody to 'fight terrorism' or in more realistic terms, widen the class structure!

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Too bad this movie didn't have much substance so the European version sucked! I haven't seen the American version and it's probably worse, but I hated the European version. There was very little plot, the acting was almost beyond horrible, and the ending was too predictable.

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lol. its funny how when US censors something, everyone complains how US are censor whores. but when europe censors something, its for art... double standards are the worse type of prejudism. i'm happy i've grown up in a place where we dont judge entire countries.

and is it really a compliment to say europeans think that this movie had substance? lol...

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Europe didn't censor anything.

The movie studio did.

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CONFUSED.....what scenes does the Euro version miss out? we cant work out which version we've got.....

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ya i found it surprising but i saw it in theatres ( in canada ) and watched the european version online and the european one was a lot more tame ( which is what i found surprising considering the media is usually a lot more lax over there ).

its been a while tho so i cant remeber which parts were cut out or anything.

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well i saw it in ireland and nothing was left out. are you sure it was all european countries?

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yeah....did the euro version have the blender scene and the acid scene in it....?......still confused....

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well, what you call "european version" is in fact the "original version": a tame psycho thriller that was only officially released in spain (so you could call it "early spanish version") but is floating all around the internet ... so there was nothing "edited" or "cut" there. everywhere else a spiced-up gory version was released, with splatter scenes that were later shot (by studio request) and added into the movie (only this latter version ist available in r-rated or unrated editions which are practically the same).

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The original version is MUCH better than the USA version.

Thank GOD that lame storyline of Ben and Gary killing their mother was removed!

I liked most of the additions. The policemen scenes were very nice, the movie looks la lot more homogenic in the original version.

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I saw the UK heavily editted version and it's really decent. People were calling this a torture porn and I was like "WTF?! The version I saw had little to no torture scenes." I'm glad that I was the thriller version of Captivity instead of the tortured version but now I'm curious to see the US version to compare the 2.

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> European one was a lot more tame - which I found surprising considering the media is usually a lot more lax over there

This marks the moral decay of the United States reaching epidemic proportions.. Or perhaps just stupid movie studios who simultaneously make a movie *worse* from a plot POV (from what I've read), AND make it more repulsive.

I had the misfortune of turning on SyFy during the last 5 minutes of Saw 6 (or maybe it was the last 10 minutes - it was about the point where the guy got eaten alive by hydrofluoric acid. Remember that "SyFy" used to be "SCIence FIction". Kind of how "TLC" used to be "The Learning Channel". How times have changed - for the worse.

But on the bright side (maybe), I ran across the interesting article "Torture porn and surveillance culture" by Evangelos Tziallas (which can be found at http://www.ejumpcut.org/archive/jc52.2010/evangelosTorturePorn/), which purports that "torture porn is an extreme reaction to the Bush administration’s post-9/11 surveillance protocols and policies".

I also found the (much) less accessible essay published in Cineaste by Christopher Sharrett, "The problem of Saw: "torture porn" and the conservatism of contemporary horror films." (http://www.magpies.net/nick/bb/viewtopic.php?t=54678), which argues that Saw as an example of "torture porn" is basically a conservative, vigilante worldview.

Maybe that's what it says.. It's rather dense..

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The version i watched was apparently the European version, which was definitely tame, but although i wouldn't say it had 'substance,' i appreciated the lack of gore. Although predictable, in this censored form the film at least had a psycho-thriller edge.

Of course, now i'm intrigued about the acid and blender and what-not, but i liked the film without it!

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"americans love gore because their brainwashed repatidly believing they are the greatest nation on earth and can engage with anybody to 'fight terrorism' or in more realistic terms, widen the class structure!"

And you learned all that from watching a censored version of "Captivity"? Bravo.

"The european version focuses more on substance rather than style"

I wish I could have seen this "Extended Substance Cut" you watched because they apparently edited all the substance out of the U.S. version to make room for the extra gore.

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Here's a comparison between the R-Rated and Unrated Version with pictures:
http://movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=4620

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You said it all, man. Gotta love the America-bashers who will go all out on any idea that pops into their minds. We love gore because we think we're the best nation on earth and like fighting terrorism. Makes perfect sense!

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The version I watched had no dogscene or acid scene etc.

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LOL...what a great post.

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If America's not the greatest country on earth, then which is? If we weren't the greatest country on earth, we wouldn't always run into loudmouth jealous eurotrash trying to rip on us with non sequitors. The EU economy is crashing, why don't you go sue microsoft for another 1.5 billion for the exact same thing you already just sued them for, so you can prop up your economy, even though you dont have to pay your own defense... If it wasn't for the US, europe would be all german / russian speaking.

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that's very ignorant of you

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This was very unnecessary, and has nothing to do with U.S beliefs, your just going by what you see on the news, just like people who supported Hitler.

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i actually didnt find this movie gorey at all.
i went into with the idea that it was going to be crazy intense from the way they promoted that cenors tried to ban the movie. but it definitely flaked out in my opinion.

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yep the acid and the blender scene was in the movie i saw. in europe.

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Yeah me too. Not sure if there are two European versions going around, but the UK DVD I just saw was pretty gory, blender scene was under exploited I thought. Could have done more for horror value, I mean she didn't even have a sore tum after that. And why do some posts talk about her becoming a serial killer. Did I miss an extra credit sequence??

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HEAVY SPOILER CONTENT.....

Okay so I saw two different versions of the film.

In one version Jennifer has been kidnapped and then psychologically tortured. Other than the opening sequence there was no physical torture. This version also features a police investigation. Finally she leaves the house having escaping at the end.

In the other version (Unrated Version) you see her being drugged and kidnapped and the police investigation scenes have been replaced with the blender scene, acid shower scene, tooth scene and the dog scene. It also shows footage of the brothers as children and the relationship they had with their mother in an effort to explain why they now do what they do. Once she has escaped at the end you are given a glimpse into her life six months later where she herself has become a serial killer.

Neither version was particularly memorable in a genre which is possibly becoming tired. Personally I think the psychological cut was the better effort but let down by little substance and poor acting on Cuthbert's part. From her performance you could be forgiven for thinking that she's never played a kidnapee/helpless victim before!

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I live in the UK and own this dvd, and it sounds like I've got the uncensored version. So maybe the UK showed that version and other European countries showed the censored one? Anyone else live in the UK and has watched the uncensored cut?

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"A genre which is possibly becoming tired."

Possibly becoming tired? It's been tired.

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I've just come through the dog scene and the acid scene and the blender scene and if that is your scene you are welcome to it, I find it ob scene. I stumbled across this movie in a local video shop where I did my window shopping prior to ordering DVDs (I don't hire) and I was captivated (pun) by the box design, the sad eyed-girl behind the chain link fence. I had no idea it was about torture, I thought it was an abduction drama. What totally sold me on the deal was that Elisha Cuthbert was in it. THE GIRL NEXT DOOR. I'm not disappointed by Elisha in the flick, she did well. Had she not been such a classy chick, this movie would have had no value to me. Anyway, THE GIRL NEXT DOOR is my kind of scene, not this.


Anyway, it's interesting to see how you guys fight over dead meat. In this country, we had to fight the censors to see living flesh. You could have been thrown in jail for a centerfold. And you guys find your jollies in this day and age over an eye and an ear and other assorted chunks of red meat chopped up in a blender. Hell, get thine couch asses over to an abattoir, you'd love it there! Wallowing up to your knees in your leather boots in a sea of blood. Must be heaven to you.

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There are three versions of this movie which I have seen:

The US version is extremely gory and has torture scenes involving acid, a blender, tooth-pulling, and the shooting of a dog. the beginning shows how she got captured and offers a flashback (a highlight of the movie) of the two brothers as children murdering their mother. the film ends with jennifer escaping the house.
8/10

The UK version is a totally different film altogether. all the torture scenes mentioned above are absent, there is a lot more dialogue (meaning more of a focus on the bad acting), and a full play-by-play of the police investigation. the flashback of the two brothers is gone, the film starts with jennifer immediately being captured, and a lot more questions are presented and left unanswered. interesting at times, but isn't at all what the US version was. The film ends almost the same as the US version.
4/10

The US alternate ending version plays out almost exactly the same as the original US version, only the opening sequence of the man being killed with a sledge hammer is instead placed at the end of the movie. The man is revealed (through press clippings) to be a 3-time murderer of women, his assalent is revealed to be Jennifer.
7.5/10

Please, see the movie the way it was meant to be seen. See the US version.

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I'm in the UK and I rented Captivity last night. The version I saw was exactly the same as the "US version" you describe.

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Only the theatrically released UK version is the alternate version I believe, but I could be wrong.

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It sort of sounds that way. Unless it's dependent on which country you live in in the UK. But I couldn't be sure because I didn't go to the cinema to see it.

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The UK version is a totally different film altogether. all the torture scenes mentioned above are absent, there is a lot more dialogue (meaning more of a focus on the bad acting), and a full play-by-play of the police investigation. the flashback of the two brothers is gone, the film starts with jennifer immediately being captured, and a lot more questions are presented and left unanswered. interesting at times, but isn't at all what the US version was. The film ends almost the same as the US version.
4/10


Thats the version I watched, wtf... seems the US version is alot better :E

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Seems there are some very basic misconceptions about the two different versions of the film.

1 - The US version isn't the 'original' version. The original version is actually the less gory version with none of the tooth pulling or acid showers.

2 - The original version should NOT be called the 'European' version. In most EU countries they got exactly the same version as the US, It was only the UK and Spain who got the less gory first edit and there are over 40 countries in Europe, not just those 2!

Germany also got a third version(Germany have very strict censorship laws)

3 - The editing had nothing to do with securing a certain age rating or censorship... The US/Spain version was released first and bombed so they quickly re-hashed it before it hit the US almost a month later and both versions are available on DVD in the UK.

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The UK version is a totally different film altogether. all the torture scenes mentioned above are absent, there is a lot more dialogue (meaning more of a focus on the bad acting), and a full play-by-play of the police investigation. the flashback of the two brothers is gone, the film starts with jennifer immediately being captured, and a lot more questions are presented and left unanswered. interesting at times, but isn't at all what the US version was. The film ends almost the same as the US version.
4/10

Well i have the uk version which i bought from asda and it has the dog being shot, a tooth being pulled, a woman getting acid thrown on her and melting her face, the mother being murderd, the blender drink (which i thought was absolutely disgusting especially with the bib thing with sick all over it, a guy getting acid put in a tube and blood coming out of another. ummm i can't really remember anymore, so which version is this? I bought it from the uk but could it be the usa version or whatever it's called?

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That's the US version. Basically, what is referred to as the 'EU version' (even though it was only released in Spain and the UK), was quickly replaced in both those countries with the 'US version' when it bombed.

It's quite hard to get hold of the 'EU version' people speak about now.

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This movie is just not very good overall

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you say the movie is a horrible torture porn saw era crappy film, but then you say probably both the american and european versions are both crap, showing that you haven't even seen the film but you are passing judgement on both versions, maybe try watching it before you decide on its quality, although for someone with a name like *beep* you i shouldn't expect too much. the movie might very well suck, i haven't seen it yet so therefore i'm not going to say if it is good or bad because unlike you i'm not psychic.

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People!!! Don't be confused! The Spain/UK version is the original. The torture scenes were added on US and BY ANOTHER DIRECTOR!!! Roland Joffe had NOTHING to do with these scenes! They were directed by Courtney Solomon, the idiot that gave us Dungeouns & Dragons.
Joffe is a great director who did a bad film. The american distributor thought that they could save adding gore and made it even worst!

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ya i thought the EU version had more "story" if you wanna call it that, but even the US version wasnt gory. i went in expecting "the most shocking movie ever" (or close to it like the ads said)...didnt find it gory at all.
overall, it sucked. sorry cuthbert lol

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I'm confused. I've just watched the UK release and it's got every scene that's mentioned on these boards. Shame it wasn't the alt ending though.

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Awww, those cute violence-loving yanks - I wish more countries would make weapon ownership part of their constitution! I know some fools I'd love to ice, for sure.


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You're half right. The torture scenes were added later, but Roland Jaffe did shoot them. Courtney was the producer. I know because I was brought in to write the torture scenes.
I was on the set for the reshoots and Roland Jaffe was the director.

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Read this article. The Spanish version seemed to have been much better

http://movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=2081862

When this movie was being made, Hostel and Saw series was out, so they (Captivity producers and all) changed the direction of the movie. They should have kept it at the stalker level.

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