Collection purposes. That's like not buying Crystal Skull or Expendables 3 just because they sucked. Completionist. At least, I am. Which is why I even own that God awful Halloween II 2009 version. That and box sets. You're not given much choice then.
As for the movie itself, it was a good idea, just poorly executed. Every other word did not have to be a curse word. There is more to physical and emotional abuse than language. The way he went about it was his wheel house, as seen in Corpses and Rejects, but this is Halloween. Wrong place, wrong time for that. If he really wanted to impress he would've strayed from his comfort zone and closer to the source material. Take the Amityville remake. Reynolds was a much bigger bastard, Ketchum played a bigger part, and this time Jodie wasn't a pig, but they did it fairly well.
That's how you do it. You take what worked, spice it up (babysitter( add a few things that don't hurt it and let the original be your guide. Only in parts of the second half did he do that. He didn't even have to modernize it. 1963 and 1978 would've been fine. But Rob does what he does best. White trash hillbilly-fied it. Especially the last one.
Adding Harris was a nice touch for fans, but not a saving grace. This film could've been so much better tamer, like the original After all these years and sequels, no one would've cared if it matched the competition. Amityville didn't care.
Then there's the Fog, which completely went off the rails. So it cuts both ways, at least this one met in the middle. But in the end, it's judged by fans. I haven't heard much praise vs. complaints. There's a reason for that. It's not the fans. We know what we're used to and know what we like. Nothing wrong with that. Loyalty, sticking to the source material and most of all using what works instead of personal agendas.
31 seems no better. Which is fine on it's own, but don't put Michael Myers in it and expect praise. That's not who he is, was or should be. Not a hulking monster like Jason, but a man. I know the man likes Tyler Mane, but come on. Even Shanks wasn't that big.
Bottom line, he made it his way, he should accept the criticism. A for effort, F for execution.
"He came home." - Dr. Sam Loomis from the original HalloweeN
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darkmemories
9 years ago
I guess if you want to watch the same movie over and over and over again. Sure make every remake exactly the same. Amittyville was garbage and in no way as good as the original. And that's sad for me because I loved all the actors. But the writing and execution was garbage. "I think what we have here is a failure to communicate." The problem is not Rob Zombies angle or execution. It's the fact that you would rather be fed a regurgitated version of a meal you liked than try a new recipe. Eat all the vomit you want kitty. I won't stop you. But I prefer the way Rob spiced it up. Maybe you just have bad taste ;)
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dave626
9 years ago
Well, that's your opinion. Personally I think you have bad taste. ;) Your problem is you can't see the forest for the trees. You want something one person, YOU, like. That doesn't work. This has to be something the fanbase likes for it to be successful. Rob's two versions effectively buried the franchise to the point it's taken this long to make another one, and one that is not connected and ignores said movies. Wouldn't do that if it was a good idea the fans liked.
So basically, you're not seeing the big picture and being small minded and a Zombie "fan boy" with rose colored glasses on. Have you even seen the prior Halloweens? 8 films and 7 of them had the Halloween feel and didn't go white trash and verbal suicide to make their points. I'd say that's a proven track record. Given the lack of success for Halloween II, Lords of Salem's limited release and now 31's less than stellar marketing, I'd say that's a proven failure. Even M. Night Shymalan is getting more movies than Zombie and getting more attention.
So be careful when you try to discount other people's opinions. I'm certainly not the only one here to show disdain for Zombie's 2 attempts. No remake is ever better than the original. At least Amityville tried to be different, as opposed to Psycho and Omen. Those were as you say, regurgitated. Friday was 4 films in one, Nightmare went full pedophile and TCM just went for looks. So in comparison, Amityville was heads and tails above those. Halloween is hardly in the conversation as it only used the second half to even connect to the original.
Remember that when question someone's tastes. A little thing called facts.
"He came home." - Dr. Sam Loomis from the original HalloweeN
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darkmemories
9 years ago
Fact: he made back double what he spent on this. His budgeting skills make every movie a success (except for House cuz he was new to it) and to clarify, I'M A FAN GIRL. And lastly the only people on here came to complain because they have nothing better to do with their time than spend it hating. Trust me he doesn't need you. He has a pretty loyal and GROWING fan base. So....until you can make a movie and have EVERYONE like it (impossible btw) shut up, sit down and spin :P
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