In the last video message Andre says "You may not see it now but we're doing the most loving thing anyone can do.". If you would understand what he meant by that, if you could read his mind, how would you say he was thinking? In what way is what they were about to do, the most loving thing?
shareWhat Andre meant is that to anyone who survived the shooting, it would give there life meaning because they were able to survive such an ordeal.
shareOk, now i understand :-). Thank u.
-John, I love you.
-In the play. I know.
-I`m going to kiss you.
-No point.
He also saw it as a wake-up call, something that needed to be done for people to see the world how it really is. It was, to him, a lesson that needed to be taught, and he and Cal considered the people of his town fortunate that they had front row seats.
shareI think this is it, that he sees their actions as teaching the world something. It's the same defense Westboro Baptist uses for their abuses, picketing funerals of soldiers killed in combat, they also claim that it's out of love. On the other hand, Cal doesn't really try to explain himself at all and in the shooting scene he appears to be reveling in the carnage, doing it more out of an internal desire for violence than any philosophical reason.
From what I've read, this is pretty close to the behavior of the actual Columbine shooters. Eric Harris was considered by most people to have been the more vicious, he got into trouble with the police more and had anger management problems, and other people perceived him as the leader. A lot of people thought that Dylan Klebold was just so committed to Eric that he went along with the plan, rather than having any personal desire for it, because he gave the impression of being very gentle and shy. But during the actual shooting, Dylan was animated and excited, taunting his victims before he shot them. The videos the two shot before the attack also showed Eric to be a lot more emotional and apologetic to his family, discussing how he emotionally cut himself off from his family and piled his rage up so that he wouldn't lose his nerve when they started shooting, because he was worried that sympathy would stop him. His diaries go a lot into the philosophy behind what he's doing, while Dylan's diaries are all about his own angst and hardly discuss the shooting at all.
The movie kind of mirrors the way that the shooters showed one personality to the rest of the world that gave a false impression of the power dynamics between the two of them. It seems like Dylan (Cal, in the movie) had a violent nature that he kept hidden around everyone but Eric, whose more open anger problems made it easy for Dylan to trust him. But I've been reading through the transcripts of the videos they shot and looking through all the diary entries, and at this point it wouldn't surprise me if Dylan came up with the idea in the first place.
They knew a wave of human compassion, caring and community would evolve directly from their actions. Ironically, they themselves (who needed it and bemoaned how people were to "their fellow man") would not be around to enjoy it.
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I hope you are being sarcastic.
shareThey felt they were doing predator control. Like getting rid of the 8 foot plus alligators that attack and eat people. They went to school with these people for probably close to a decade. They knew who the thugs were and the entitled who were allowed to abuse their status and they dealt with them.
Like the US dealt with Al Qaeda in Aghanistan and Saddam Hussein in Iraq. When people are attacked and victimized they arm themselves and defend/retaliate just like nations do. Why should that surprise anyone? It's probably hardwired into us.
You have a point but it's still in a way overglorifying what they did. What they did was a means to an end. They thought it might be fun in a way because they were sick in their heads, they were isolated from their peers in a way. Sure they had loving families but they didn't have that sense of belonging in their community and particularly in their school. They probably in a way thought that this would continue past high school and who knows? Maybe it might have. It certainly can if you let it..
In any case I think it was a means to an end with that end being their deaths. They wanted to die. That was their main goal. I think it was a fantastic albeit fictional depiction of the Columbine shootings with clear roles in my opinion. To me, Andre was clearly Harris whereas Cal was clearly Klebold. You can see how Andre (Eric) saw the killings as more of a game that could perhaps continue indefinitely. He is boisterous and confident throughout the film about the shootings and continues to be so during the shootings themselves. But there's a sort of juvenile quality about it, a naivete.
Cal (Dylan) is more quiet throughout the film and once the killings starts, he changes. He becomes an unhinged angry lunatic. He is really using this as a release, a cathartic experience. This is who he really is and he wants to let that inner anger out before his death which is his main goal.
I think that was the end game for Cal, maybe not so much for Andre. I think Andre just wanted to 'play the game' of a sort. Perhaps he wanted to die too but it wasn't his main goal. He wanted to have fun.
It's the same way I see Klebold and Harris after extensive research into their apparent psyches over the years. Great portrayals. Sorry for my long-winded post.