This is the one thing that's still driving me completely insane about this movie
The one thing??
As you have already highlighted it`s one thing to just say what people did or didnt do, it`s quite another to explain it rationally. My problems with this film are numerous
1. There was NO investigation into Margot`s fake death. Why? Just because Jacque identified the body doesnt mean all investigations stop.
2. Jacque CANNOT request a copy of Margot`s autopsy file. This is totally silly even if he is the Cheif of Police. There is a clear conflict of interest that would blow any prosecution case out of the water. Even against the supposed serial killer.
3. If Dueville ordered his henchmen to steal the safety deposite box key from Margot,(which contained incriminating evidence of his son`s paedofilia), why didnt he do something when the henchmen NEVER returned?
4. When Margot vouched for Bruno, saying that they were having an affair, this could easily have been proved false by the police asking very simple questions. Times, venues, how long they had been seeing each other, etc. Margot and Bruno had no time to colaborate on a story.
5. How on earth did Alex not find out about Margot and Bruno?? Did Margot get EVERYONE to lie about her affair with a suspected murderer??!?!?!? Police? Friends? Newspapers?? TV???
"Come on, Doc. We`re not talking about a band-aid or a tube a Ungentine"
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ghostyshow
16 years ago
1. I'm no investigator, but I don't think you really need more than one person to identify the body. Plus, the girl was bludgeoned beyond recognition. Anyone else who would of been asked to seen her would probably think it was her. Jacque even put his daughters jewelry on the dead body so if anyone else were to be asked they'd probably identify her as Margot simply based on the fact of her jewelry since her face was all swollen and cut up.
2. Erm, not sure what to say on that one. Hah
3. He probably didn't do anything because how would that look when he reports two missing henchmen who were sent to kill Margot?
4. I think that they at first were saying that he was at a career counseling appointment with her. When the police were getting suspicious that they were have an appointment at 11am (still not sure why that's so weird...) they collaborated and decided to tell the police that they were having an affair. I'm sure then they decided how long it had been (2 months) and all the other stuff.
5. Hmmm, I'm thinking that they didn't report on the affair. Perhaps the police simply reported that Bruno had an alibi and wouldn't give any further information. Not to mention Margot's father was Chief of Police so he probably had a large control of what information was released to the press.
I thought I'd be able to clear your questions but I don't think I did that great of a job ahahaha.
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kep315
16 years ago
4. I think that they at first were saying that he was at a career counseling appointment with her. When the police were getting suspicious that they were have an appointment at 11am (still not sure why that's so weird...)
It was 11
PM, not 11am.
Also, when people start saying, "I think..." that this is what happened, it's an indication of a not very-well thought out story. I don't recall seeing Margot buy two tickets (what happened in the novel, or what people "believe" happened, is irrelevant. A film should be a self-contained entity in which you don't have to search elsewhere for answers). Why would she buy one under his name and then, six minutes later, buy one under her assumed name? At this point she didn't know Alex was on the run, so it wasn't to deceive the police. On the other hand, if it was done to throw-off the bad guys, wouldn't the fact that he was suddenly going to Buenos Aires be A BIG RED FLAG to them??!!! Wouldn't they want to know why he was suddenly going to leave the country, and possibly try to stop him? (though it appears the bad guys weren't even at the airport, so they apparently knew nothing about Alex's alledged flight -- which, I maintain, was merely a very-badly done plot device to create artificial suspense of the police almost catching Margot).
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ghostyshow
16 years ago
It was 11PM, not 11am.
AHHH, yes that would be strange hahaha. I must have misread the subtitles.
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GregDUnger
16 years ago
1. The victim was made to appear as one more victim of a serial killer and the body was identified by someone with perfect credentials : a police chief who was the victim's father. Police would put the case with all the other victims and keep looking for the serial killer.
2. I think anyone can request a copy of the record. It's a bit of a stretch that he apparently got the originals, stole the pictures and returned the file without detection, then again, he was a cop may have been well known to officials and trusted.
3. A little weakness in the story here as well. Some of the details must have gone through his lawyer. (BTW : Gonzalez - not Bruno) With a witness prepared to supply an alibi, DAs would give up.
4. Again, this was Gonzales and the only details that mattered were their location at the time of the murder. The French are probably much more 'understanding' of these things.
5. Alex was away and her involvement may have been kept quiet by her father's connections.
No movie ever gets every little thing air tight. What really matters is whether you liked it. I did.
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miktal-1
16 years ago
Police would put the case with all the other victims and keep looking for the serial killer.
1. They still have to investigate Margots murder via the autopsy. This is not done to identify the victim, but how she died and any other important details, such as her habitual drug use would of come to light. Have you watched CSI? They look at every aspect of the murder
2. You are wrong about this. He is a Police Cheif and the father of the victim. He CANNOT get involved in the crime in any way. His involvment represents a major breach in the judicial system, as he has the power to arrest, detain and if neccessary corrupt evidence as he sees fit.
5. Alex was away and her involvement may have been kept quiet by her father's connections.
This doesnt work. Dueville is a major political figure, therefore his sons murder would of made front page news, wasnt he also an Olympic gold medalist or something?. When the case against Gonzales was dropped, the affair would of come out. How can anyone cover this up? The story is WAY too big.
The whole film is a bit of a strectch to be honest. The makers are asking us to take too much for granted.
"Come on, Doc. We`re not talking about a band-aid or a tube a Ungentine"
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fuzzout987
16 years ago
Here's my question say the cops found out that Margot actually killed Phillipe Neuville instead of Jacques, could she be charged? Because it seemed like a pretty good case could be made for self defense as he had beaten her senseless and may have killed her had she not shot him.
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tornew
16 years ago
I do not know about France, but in Oklahoma you open a case and request the autopsy information. He would not be allowed to be involve in the investigation of his daughter and would have been treated like a family member. My office has done this for a family involving a death by a handgun. We received all information photos, police report, etc..
I didn't think she was involved with Bruno. That was her husband's friend the father of the young boy in the clinic. I don't remember the name of the original suspect she lied for, but I don't think it was Bruno.
Weren't the guys who kidnapped and had her key hired by her father?
The part about the involvement in the case and keeping that from the public including her husband. That was a stretch, but the laws in other countries are very different when it comes to public records in crimes. I know it is in England. They are very strict about any information being released.
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nigel-169
15 years ago
Miktal said, "3. If Dueville ordered his henchmen to steal the safety deposite box key from Margot,(which contained incriminating evidence of his son`s paedofilia), why didnt he do something when the henchmen NEVER returned? "
Neuville ordered the hit, and then for the hitmen to disappear for a while. He would assume they'd stayed disappeared. Not spelt out in the movie, but it's in the book.
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dmedinacooper
13 years ago
Actually, I believe that Neuville ordered the hit, but because the henchman never reappeared with the evidence, he kept surveillance on Margot's father and Alex.
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