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Whats worse: This or Happiness.


I saw Happiness and was somewhat repulsed by it. SO is this more disturbing or less than Happiness.
I did like Welcome to the Dollhouse and Storytelling. But Happiness was just too disturbing to enjoy.

"This is the worst f ucking thing I've ever read. The language is terrible."
~George C. Scott

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I agree. Happiness bothered me more than Palindromes did - although I didn't find either hugely upsetting. I really like Solondz's films, I'm really glad there are people making films like he is.

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Was this thread started by Robert Knepper's mother?

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I believe that Solondz has made it his mission in life to try to show the human sides of all things that we see as disturbing and uncomfortable. I applaud him for realizing that we can not learn and grow within our comfort zones and that viewing something we may find disturbing in another context may not change the way we feel about the thing but force us to view the person doing it in a different manner which may lead if not to changing the way we feel about the act then to a greater understanding of the human element of it.

Our society has no problem with the act of sex and murder in it's movies. I find it HILARIOUS that when a writer/director explores the even harsher psychological aspects of our society people are so "disturbed". As if these things do not happen on a daily basis and our greater understanding of them may not be a benefit to the prevention them. What "disturbs" me is the multitude of people cheering for a violent and COMPLETELY fictional film, such as 'Sin City' (which is just an example and I enjoyed), but claim to be "disturbed" by something so tragically real like what Solodnz has shown us in movies like 'Palindromes' and 'Happiness'. I feel that this is one of the greatest hypocrisies of the human race.

I love Solondz work and hope that not only will there be TONS more of it in the future but that at some point more people will realize the importance of exploring the things that he is showing us not merely for the benefit of the individual but that of the human race.

Both movies that you mention had important things to say although 'Happiness' seemed, to me, to cover a greater spectrum of human darkness.


Think for yourselves and let others enjoy the privilege to do so too. - Voltaire

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