Who else agrees that this was painful to watch
I can understand the rating but still extremely tedious
shareI can understand the rating but still extremely tedious
shareI agree. I couldn't finish it. That detective was a buffoon. It was really boring and badly paced.
shareThe first hour was indeed very slow. It picks up considerably in the second half.
I found the incompetence and crudeness of the detectives to be mostly annoying and frustrating (rather than humorous, which I believe was the film-maker's intention). They got their act together a bit more in the 2nd half, which made the story more gripping.
I loved it, thought it was a gripping thriller with an odd twist of humour. Never seen anything quite like it.
shareOn a scale of 1 to 10 where Gigli is a 1 and Shawshank Redemption is a 10, I'd give this a 4.
shareIt's a statement more about you, than the film.
shareThe movie was corny at times: the buffonery, the cliches, the drop kicks, the ridiculousness of the detective, the lame jokes, looking for the killer at a spa etc. And finding clues through the crying woman on the hill and a detective noticing a song on the radio? That was the detective work? The humour was like something from a Jackie Chan mixed in with film noir. I think if this were an American movie it'd be laughed at and rightly so. The overall plot from start to end was interesting enough and the acting by the two mains was solid, but the execution and overall tone was just strange. Would have worked better if more serious and believable detective work.
shareThe way I see it, the director is making fun of the "rural" judicial/police system in 80s South Korea with a gripping story. I imagine the majority of people who dislike it arrive at that conclusion simply because it doesn't have an American style "perfect" ending where everything is solved and put in place for the simple-minded viewer. I hope my comments don't offend any of the aforementioned simpletons.
Before you get blisters on your fingers from any angered feelings I may have stirred as you type feverishly in incandescent rage, think about the movie "Mississippi Burning", which is set in the USA in the mid 60s. Anyone not familiar with this particular piece of history would think this movie was absolutely absurd, how can people possibly be like this less than 50 years ago?? So perhaps you should look into rural South Korean history and educate yourself as to what went on there in 80s.
"Does Barry Manilow know that you raid his wardrobe?"
Incandescent rage? I'm not angry at all. I watched the movie and though it was so-so. I grasp what it is saying about South Korea - still didn't think it was a great movie.
Film geeks don't seem to be capable of accepting that people have personal preferences. If you loved it then all the power to you. There are not categorically good or bad movies, it is entirely subjective. For this movie I didn't think it was spectacular by any means. Such is life.
I guess I never saw it as "corny" because I picked up on the grim-but-humorous tone right from the start. Which, admittedly, is a difficult balance to pull off - maybe more so in a foreign-language film with subtitles, the format in which I viewed this one (started with the dubbed version for a couple minutes and couldn't stand it). Unlike the old Jackie Chan flicks (which you mentioned) I never found myself rolling my eyes or laughing at unintentionally funny scenes. Mostly I just found the movie compelling enough that I could totally buy into some of the sillier (with hindsight) plot details.
I agree that the cops (including the main character) are lunkheaded bullies, and obviously depicted that way on purpose. And while I could be wrong, I took this more as a reflection of their character as individuals, than as any kind of overt social commentary.
As for the primitive and often inept detective work, again, I tend think that was the whole point. These mid-80's rural cops are working without so much as basic computer equipment, let alone cell phones or Internet, and this combined with their decidedly non-intellectual/non-introspective nature, makes for rough going to say the least. While many of their actions throughout the film are deplorable, their behavior seems more rooted in desperation and anger than innate sadism.
8/10 (very good/excellent)
P.S. Sorry for the long-winded post.
I don't. I was glued to my screen throughout.
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Yet another extremely tedious misery loves company sad thread
'Well I've got two words for you - STFU'
Yeah the movie isn't the problem. You are. This is one of the most engaging and realistic films. There's humor in the darkest times in life, and crimes sometimes never get solved due to bad policing. You realize most police/detectives are people who can barely do basic math and went the "grunt" route in life.
Use your brain, or don't watch films that are above your IQ level