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Why was Aileen sentenced to death for the first murder who was a RAPIST

posted 10 years ago by al666940-3
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Richard Mallory.

It says on wikipedia that he had a previous rape conviction.

I mean, I get manslaughter if you want for that one (cops never believe hookers unless they are their informants or are lucky to have a trunkload of evidence against the john like in that recent Charleston case where a hooker killed a john who turned out to be a serial killer with a trunk full of machetes and rope and shovels), but straight up death?

[–] Foxbarking 10 years ago

Wournos also had not only a past history of illegal activity, but also has made several false accusations about others, so her testimoy that it was self defense was not believable.

Plus her girlfriend testified against her and testified that it was murder.

[–] millsyooksy 9 years ago

I agree, I have no idea why that was part of her conviction. Honestly, she did the world a favor. We don't need more rapists, we can't even take care of ISIS!

[–] InherentlyYours 9 years ago

I agree, I have no idea why that was part of her conviction. Honestly, she did the world a favor. We don't need more rapists, we can't even take care of ISIS!

ISIS has nothing to do with this. You're another priss-ass commoner who thinks rape is your onus in life, while you couldn't' care less about other types of victimization, especially men, likely. "Honestly", you say? You should be so honest as to know how narcissistic you are. I'm just being honest with you.

[–] rascal67 9 years ago

Many of these female posters are so insecure, that they play the rape card as being the worst thing that can ever happen to them and use it to malign men as though all men are rapists, so all are potentially evil.

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[–] TequilaMockingbird5150 9 years ago

I didn't realize people used this word in this day and age.

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[–] InherentlyYours 9 years ago

what?

[–] mikebmc 9 years ago

She wasn't raped. If you watch a documentary on her (there are two. Not sure which one it is) she admits that she lied. When the director (Nick something) said he was impressed with her performance about the details of the rape, she said she was acting and was surprised she did such a convenient ncing gn job at that lie. She wasn't raped by anybody she killed.

[–] dora-tonks 8 years ago

I just watched the documentary you're referring to (the Life & Death one) and it honestly seems like she was lying when she admitted that her testimony was a lie. I have a feeling that the truth is somewhere in between, but leaning more toward her original self defence story.

We'll never know, of course, but that's the impression that I personally got.

[–] Przeciwdeszczowy 8 years ago

She was lying in the film, she said herself that she just wanted to get the execution over with, and part of that was to claim that she was never raped so there wouldn't be a question of having a stay of execution granted. It seems unlikely that all of her victims tried to rape her, but I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case with Mallory.

[–] FreddyVoorheesTheThird 8 years ago

She said that so that she would get the death sentence. By that time she just wanted to die, so contradicted her original claim so that she wouldn't be given a longer stay in jail.

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[–] iroquoisjoe 9 years ago

It says on wikipedia that he had a previous rape conviction.

Ha!  That's not proof.

cops never believe hookers

I'm gonna guess that prostitutes may sometimes cry rape when they don't get the money they think they deserve...earned or not. Cops may grow tired of being used as a debt collection/revenge agency.

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[–] rascal67 9 years ago

Aileen claimed that the police could have nabbed her sooner after this first murder, as they already had her record and there would have been prints and even other evidence to get her busted. They didn't and perhaps due to the john being a convicted rapist, care factor may have been zero. However, this allowed for her to roam free for longer and in the process she claimed other male victims.

Perhaps this might have been a blame game Aileen was playing; but if what she said is true, then the police involved in this case need to take some responsibility for their lack of action. The sentence of death for this first murder, might have been a deflection and scapegoat by the prosecution to brush this aspect of her claim under the rug.

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[–] Przeciwdeszczowy 8 years ago

If you are referring to what she said in Broomfield's film about how the police were aware that she was killing men way before she was eventually caught, you should definitely read the book "Dear Dawn". In the letters Lee sent from prison it's painfully obvious how her mental health deteriorated while she was on death row, and these comments to Nick were obviously the result of her borderline personality causing these paranoid ideas. Even in the documentary the state of her mental health is evident in her last interview. I think it's sad what those years on death row did to her mental health, regardless of how terrible her crimes were.

In fact, I would recommend the book to pretty much everyone with any interest in Wuornos' case. You can pretty much track the state of her mind from those letters, and how her paranoid ideas develop over the years.

[–] TequilaMockingbird5150 9 years ago

I believe this happened when he was 19 and the girl was 16 or 17. I forget the particulars, but he wasn't an out and out rapist, he just had an underage girlfriend. Supposedly.

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[–] hubcap18 8 years ago

There's a definitve answer to he OP's question in the FAQ section.

During her trial, Wuornos gave a graphic testimony in which she described being tied up, tortured, and raped by Richard Mallory, her first victim. However, in Nick Broomfield's documentary, "Aileen: Life and Death of a Serial Killer", she claimed that this story was made up and that she shot him so she could take his car. Later, when she thought the cameras were off, she claimed that she had in fact been raped, and that she only said that she shot Mallory in cold blood so she could be executed to avoid life in prison. What we do know is that Richard Mallory had previously spent ten years in prison for aggravated rape.

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[–] Stratego (31048) 6 years ago

Not 10 years in prison, 8 years in a treatment facility. It happened 30 years earlier, was Mallory ever in that kind of trouble again?