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the first girl supposedly shot inside the bus


At one point there was a great deal of hysteria among the other hostages concerning Sandro having shot one of the girls inside the bus long before he decided to walk out, causing a lot of screaming about the victim lying bleeding and dying on the floor, and as I recall this was before he told the other hostages to feign hysteria in general (though I may be mixing up the timeline). In any case the end of the film deals only with the shield hostage who was actually killed by the cop who shot at Sandro at point-blank range after they finally exited. So did Sandro in fact shoot anyone while inside the bus, or was that whole episode just a scripted ploy, with the other girls play-acting, and no one was actually shot on the bus? Even if one of the hostages had been shot but not killed -- or if that whole episode was simply a sham -- you would think the film would have addressed and cleared up this question -- assuming this wasn't just a case of my missing the explanation.

Help, anyone?

Also, I felt it was unfortunate that Padhila was forced to elide over what really happened to Sandro at the hands of the police once he had been hustled into the police car away from the lynch mob, but I suppose there was practically no video stock beyond his being tossed into the car, and almost no cooperation from the police or coroner in describing the details of his fate.

About the use of negative film stock in the interviews with prisoners in the jail, this was just a method of attempting to disguise the interviewees to protect their privacy, for much the same reason that all minors shown in the film have their faces blurred out.

Anyone interested in this movie might also want to watch Hector Babenco's 1981 Pixote, about street children, or his 2003 Carandiru, about prison conditions. City of God (2002), by Fernando Meirelles, may also be of interest for additional insight.

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She wasn't shot.

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He just shot the ground and told the girls to scream and cry so the police would meet his demands.

And the film said that Sandro was strangled in the back of the van while he was being taken away by police. The officers were tried and found not guilty of murdering him.

Out of the 3 Brazilian movies I've seen, all have been spectacular. City of God is the best but Carandiru is a close second

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The girl is interviewed and clearly explains that Sandro told her he was going to shoot,but he woulndnt shoot her and that he told the other girls to scream and yell. They did this out of order to make it more dramatic for the viewer so we didn't know if anything had really happened until they went back and interviewed the girl. I was lucky enough to catch this on tv at like 6am and actually watech the end til 8am. It was thoroughly gripping and really hurt your insides when they showed and told Sandros story, along with the other thousands of kids that follow in the same footsteps. What really made me sick was the way the whole situation was handled. I don't care if there is cameras around or not,they had tons of clear shots and if they were really worried about the audience,get them the hell.out of there. All in all an amazing documentary that really made me stop and think and I'm glad I was lucky enough to catch it.

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I am very liberal person...but they really should have shot the guy. I don't see why anyone would have objected if they did.

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This thread REALLY needs a spoiler alert becuase although this IS a documentry
Yes. You should never come to imdb before watching a film. People come here to talk about stuff they have seen and it can easily ruin movies for other people. You should go to rotten tomatoes instead.

I am very liberal person...but they really should have shot the guy.
Wow you are a moron.

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You call me a moron because i'm a liberal? Wow - your the moron!

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had i been outside the bus watching that all happen infornt of my eyes yes i would agree. But seeing the whole story, my answer would be no. If anyone needs to be shot, shoot the police who killed the street kids at the square, shoot the coprrupt.

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No. Sandro did not shoot anyone while he was on the bus. He did however, pretended to have shot someone. He told a young lady to lay down and not to speak. He fired the gun, but not at her.



Luv

Kades

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This thread REALLY needs a spoiler alert becuase although this IS a documentry, that particular scene is very important is manipulating the viewers opinion of the young man. Don't you think.
Well it did for me - I hated him at first, but then felt sorry for him.
Fm

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I completely agree, Fruitmouse.

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Yea I agree that was a major spoiler release. A spoiler alert is needed.

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Change the bl00dy title!

Major spoiler (even if you are wrong!).

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