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Didn't the ending seem a little illogical...


I haven't seen the movie for a year (on account of seeing the ending made me hate it this movie for its mis-use of time) so please excuse my reference to characters as Future Girl or Good Guy.

So if i remember correctly, the good guy gets killed in the end by some bad guys but doesn't DIE cause of some special sheet metal that the Future Girl put in his jacket. Now she did that after probably learning of his death in the future and going to the past (while she was there herself) to correct it. Now her, being able to come back is totally bs to me. She wouldn't be able to have any memory of the good guy cause once that alien was sent home, the war never happened, hence she was not born into a war-ravaged future.

Now I guess if you want to be a smart-ass you can go "Oh, but maybe...um...maybe when she was born in the future she had a weird urge to save this man whom she never really met (or did she)."

I hope some poeple can actually make sense of my dribble. Though it would of been a sad ending, just letting him die would of given you that thought of "there are some things that time can't change". Though as soon as that crappy "traveling back again" sub-story came into play, I hated this movie. I actually wish the movie just ended on that hangar with the girl disappearing cause I did actually like the movie from the start, but...damn....that ending sucked.

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But she hadn't been born, she wouldn't have been able to go back and save him. C'mon now, it's a time travel movie, there are going to be some holes, the greatest of which is NOT Milly going back to save Miyamoto.

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The thing is when dealing with time travel I think that everyone who hasn't time traveled is affexted by changes. The person who made the changes is "out of time." I don't know if I'm explaining this accurately. It's like if you go to the past and stop something from happening. And then you return to your own time then you will be the only one who remembers it ever happening. You will be the only one unaffected by the changes you made because you weren't there when time was altered. Even if you did something that made it so you were never born. You'd still exist unlike in Back to the Future when Marty started to fade away at the end.

knuck if you buck

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I thought the movie was going to end with her disappearing and that being her not existing anymore. Weird that she disappears to go back but later she uses a device with a different special effect. Did anyone else think that? Especially with the way they were acting?

The end didn't seem illogical to me, the assumption is like the above, or the moving through parallel universes theory, either way you shouldn't worry about figuring it out since it's not real and hence will seem illogical.

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You'd just be born to someone else or something like that.

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No, you'd be born and raised the same way you always were. Sure, there may be a different version of you born and raised under different circumstances (though highly unlikely), but you yourself, nor your past would change, at least not for you. If you were to go back in time and give yourself a scar, then that scar wouldn't appear on you, it would appear on the past you and that past you would branch off onto a different timeline than you had followed.

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oh I see what you're thinking.

try thinking of it like this. She dissapears on the oil rig and goes back to the future. In the future she looks for what happened to him. Finds out he dies (it feels like a few days for her since the oil rig). Goes back to the past and puts the metal in his coat.

You can tell the future is different since she can find records on him and she has a time travel device. Humanity progressed along a similar path discovering time travel but in the future she is probably the only one who experienced the war as it was in her past but no one else's. exactly what tTurtle was talking about.

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Mmmh, let's try this:

A) We see Milly go back in time to save Earth, and then another Milly going back to save Miyamoto, but what if the travel for saving Miyamoto was before the one for the Earth? Milly's military boss orders she to go on a mission for keeping alive a subject who is important for the main mission (as discovered by others explorers always by time machine): they aren't enough sure to fix the problem before the famous dawn so they decide that he has to be alive because they may still need him. So she does her mission, puts the metal sheet with the "Now we are even" message and goes back. But she find herself on the couch and realizes that something will go wrong (in her present). In fact the Tibet base is attacked, the soldier who had to go for the main mission dies and she has to go again.

Maybe this is better:

B) In the new future humans and aliens could contact and have a regular interstellar relationship, the aliens tell them what happened that day and humans decide to thank Miyamoto for his help donating him life again. But in order to don't interfere too much (dangerous!) they can only seek and send the "different timeline Milly", who before the return to her time (after placing the metal sheet) stops and stares at the "original timeline Milly".

The only weak point is that there is still Milly's disappearing, because we agree that she had to stay there, not disappear (cursed the "The time machine" idea!).

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This is why time traveling isn't possible.

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Time travel is probable, but there are so many theories. Just google how to make a time machine etc. you find some crazy stuff, but cool theories.

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Or what if it's the time that could be Milly that showed up, from an alternate future/(parallel), so the Milly with Miyamoto could have been wiped from existence, and a Milly from a parallel world save Milly.

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I do agree that the ending makes no sense at all, but I didn't hate this film just because of it. The rest of the film was so kick-ass, the ending didn't bother me that much. I do agree it would have been better simply to have Miyamoto die, because the world had already been saved and Mizoguchi was already killed, you could have had a sort of mixed happy/sad ending where the hero saves the world and kills the villain but still dies at the end.

Anyway, here's another thing I think is a bit of a lapse in logic: shouldn't Millie disappear the instant the alien ship goes through it's portal and back home rather than hanging around another minute or two before disappearing? Oh well, I guess they wanted to give the two characters a chance to say their goodbyes.

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One of the best films i saw for long time, i can live with the ?-marks in the ending.
By the way - I can't tell 4 sure that the end was wierd as I have never travelled in time myself and therefor cannot tell how actions makes consequences...
REEEEALLY GOOD MOVIE!

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Well, I also thought that the ending was somewhat illogical, but one thing that every comment seems to have missed is that the war hadn't been going on for long in her future (the alien weapons were so powerful that humanity wouldn't have survived for long really), and that the girl was born before the war.
We should also assume that the time machine was being constructed before the war, or at least was being planned before the war, since I don't think that's the kind of device you build in a week.
As the death of the alien wasn't a commonly known thing (it all took place on that oil rig) in the war timeline I'd say that the peace timeline and war timelines would have progressed mostly the same up to the war, and thus she wouldn't just cease to exist in the other timeline.

But still, would the army have recruited someone that young if there was NOT a war? How could she help him then?


Well, sorry for my bad english, it isn't my native language, but I hope my point came thru anyway.

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Well, there's always the Dragon Ball Z take on time-travel:

You can go back in time and affect things, but everything you change simply creates an alternate timeline. When you go back to the future, you go back to your own time.

Basically, in Dragon Ball Z, Trunks goes back in time to prevent Androids from taking over the world. He succeeds, creating an alternate universe in which the Androids are defeated. However, when he returns to his own time, he finds that the Androids are still there. Of course, through his journey he became strong enough to defeat the Androids single-handedly. Haha.

So, Milly could have done something similar. However, it is unlikely because where should she have gotten that compact time-travel device?

I believe Turtle's theory is most in line with the movie's plot.

A part of me believes that the writer(s) probably planned to have Miyamoto die. There's probably an alternate ending. Haha.

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