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comparing this film to The Departed


I think The Departed is just too damn excessive! In Infernal Affairs,the violence and swearing is kept to a minimum while in The Departed, the violence and swearing are tuned up to 11! Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with violence and swearing but I couldn't take the movie seriously as a result! A good example is the theater scene. In Infernal Affairs, it's just Sam and Lau talking business in a regular movie theater with each other while in The Departed, they're in a porn theater where Costello makes a grand entrance with a dildo! And not just this scene, but every scene that was in Infernal Affairs is remade here with more violence, more swearing, more sex, more shouting etc. This is another example of less is more.

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" This film lacks emotion and personality. "

I gotta disagree with you on this one, man. I think this movie had a lot more style with the way it's edited and shot. To me, The Departed didn't have a whole lot of style going on.

" It's just scene after scene of people expressing plot points "

I think the relationships between Wong and Yan, Wong and Lau, Wong and Sam, Yan and Keung, and everything else are pretty well established for such a short movie.

" but it's made by amateurs. "

Really? I'm pretty sure people who work on a film with a budget of $40,000,000 are professionals.

" Repetitive score "

The score is actually one of my favorite things about the movie. To me, it heightens the excitement even though there's not a lot of gunplay in this movie.

" garbage transitions "

I agree, they could have been better.

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" it's a short movie because they never get into anything. "

It's a short movie because of the quick pacing and how simple the plot was. The Departed was a much longer film because they combined elements from the second and third film, not because they added a lot of nuances not found in the original films.

" it'd be laughed out of the theaters in one week. "

I gotta ask you, how are American audiences more sophisticated than Chinese audiences? They both go see crap like Transformers and Pirates of the Caribbean, so what makes one smarter than the other?

" The style is amateur. "

You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means. Amateur means someone with a lack of training and experience. Everybody did their job competently in this movie. So how is this amateur? I'm not saying you have to like this movie but calling it amateur is just ridiculous.

" Budget has nothing to do with it. "

Yes, it does. Why would they hire " amateurs " for such a big budget movie?

" glad you agreed with me on the least important aspect. "

Well, sorry.

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IA is clearly more stylish and far better shot than the Departed. It has more in common with Michael Mann's slickness then Scorsese's grit. American audiences are probably the dumbest on the planet, their main complaint is always subtitles! Because reading is difficult? The rest of the world has been watching foreign language films since we were knee-high, it doesn't hurt.

I suppose until Scorsese remakes The Seven Samurai and A Bout De Souffle we shouldn't consider these great either, also there's some parts of the Godfather which you have to read too. Get on it Martin!

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I would've much preferred Chris Nolan or David Fincher to remake this film because I feel their styles would work much better for this story than Scorsese's. Scorsese's style seems to be too in-your-face for this type of story(don't get me wrong, still a great director) and it really needed a more subtle vision. But then again, does it even NEED to be remade?

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I guess there was no purpose for a remake but it was clear (to Brad Pitt, of all people) that whoever bought this screenplay was gonna make a lot of money in Hollywood. I wish it had been a different director too, that's no slant on Scorsese, he will always be one of the very best but (for me) this concept does not suit the pacing, characters and setting he so often employs. Nolan would've been pretty perfect for it, his cinematography and tension building is second to none atm. As I mentioned before Michael Mann would also have been a good choice, because I can't help but feel 'Heat' was a big influence in the making of IA.

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