About Hordak...


I was wondering. If Hordak were to make his debute on this show should he be a shapeshifting cyborg like he was in the original She-ra cartoon? Like how he changed his whole body into a rocket, tank, and other mechanical forms, and his arm into a cannon.

Also, should Horde Prime also be in the new show too with Hordak serving him? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc_i6YJt0sM

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Bump

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Naw I think he would look silly and toyish.

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Maybe... But making him into just another Sorcerer just like Skeletor and King Hiss might be a bit cliché. At least if he shapeshifted like he did in She-Ra he would be more unique than Skeletor and King Hiss. What they could do is still make him a bit of a Sorcerer who applied technology to his body but update it more to make him not so silly and toyish. Also Horde Prime should be in the show too so we could solve the mystery of what he looks like.

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So aside from Hordak, should Horde Prime be a part of this Master of the Universe show aswell, acting as Hordak's Master? The way I see it, Horde Prime would be the Ultimate Villain in the He-Man Universe. I rank the main villains like this...

#1 "Horde Prime"
#2 "Hordak"
#3 "King Hiss"
#4 "Skeletor"

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Count Marzo was also a excellent villain in this series too, but probably would be ranked last in the list though!


1) "Horde Prime"

2) "Hordak"

3) "King Hiss"

4) "Skeletor"

5) "Count Marzo"


Heroes to combat all that would have to be...


1) Granamyr (had he been introduced in the 2002 series)

2) Zodak

3) He-Man

4) She-Ra

5) The Rest of "The Masters"

ST4


Rileys F U Speech Uncensoredhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUOHctF0H_s&feature=related

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Well actually, I think that Light Hope should be your 1), to combat Horde Prime

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnepQ2ZMIwg

Light Hope might aswell be the Ultimate Good compared to Horde Prime being the Ultimate Evil.

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The backstory on the DVD releases mentions Horde Prime in passing, but I don't know that they'd ever planned to include him in the show while it was on. They may have simply intended for Hordak to be the most powerful evil force in the show.

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In Horde Prime passing, what do you mean? That the DVD releases mention Horde Prime once or something?

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I think the third volume has character back stories in it;s list of special features or something. I think For Hordak it says "Hordak is the younger brother of Horde Prime" but not much else. Within the show itself they hadn't mentioned him so far, and it's certainly feels like they had intended to give Hordak the feel of "the biggest bad," at least so far.

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Yeah it does, but I wouldn't put much stock into those character profiles.

It says that Trapjaw/Kronis was captured and locked away by Captain Randor but was freed when Keldor rampaged through eternia but his arm, face and legs were mutilated in the process.

Which is complete B.S.

First of all, he was Kronis during the battle of the hall of wisdom at the start of the beginning episode, no metal jaw, no mechanical right arm, there's no way Randor could've captured him, since that's when Keldor had his accident and after they retreated back to Snake Mountain (you even see Kronis in the flashback with Mer-Man and Tri-Klops outside of Snake Mountain), Keldor went to Hordak's sanctuary and was turned into Skeletor.

Also, in the Icons of Evil comic which followed the cartoon continuity, it was Skeletor who mutilated Kronis after Skeletor threw him out of Snake Mountain for questioning him.

Kronis raised and army and attacked Snake Mountain, Kronis and Skeletor fought, Skeletor metls the skin off of Kronis' face with his hand, then blasts off his right arm with his havoc staff and finally uppercuts him so hard, it shatters his lower mouth and jaw.

Skeletor holds up Kronis by his neck and Kronis grabs skeletor's arm, Skeletor thinks Kronis is begging for mercy so he spares him, Tri-Klop's appears and informs Skeletor that Kronis' army has been defeated, Skeletor order him to clean up any survivors annd see what he can do with Kronis.

Kronis next appears in darkness with Evil_lyn saying she can't believe he would choose how he is now over death, she used to respect him, but how could he come back after what Skeletor did to him, beg for his life.

Kronis tells Lyn that he wasn't begging, he was trying to strangle Skeletor, and as to why he was here now, "keep your friends close and your enemies closer" and that his name was now Trapjaw.


Horde Prime isn't seen or even mention in the 2002 cartoon or comics, it seems like fan wankery that influenced those character profiles on the DVD, because they don't even mention Mer-Man, Tri-Klops or Beastman's backstorys on it.

Horde Prime was such a stupid character, it seems so stupid that Hordak being the badass that he is in this series, that he wouldn't be the leader of the Horde.

If they were to introduce Horde Prime, it shouldn't be a person, rather a place or planet where the Horde and Hordak originated from before coming to Eternia, we know Hordak can cast spells to other dimensions, who's to say Hordak didn't come to Eternia from somewhere else.

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Well, the thing that made Horde Prime intriguing was the mystery about him... We don't know a lot about him or what he looks like behind that smuglike mist and the only thing you see of him is those huge powerful mechanical arms and clawed hands that slam down or point out. It makes you wonder what the rest of him looks like.

I guess in a sense as fans, we wanted the chance to see what he really looks like behind that mist and are hope was this series would grant that wish. Another thing is, Horde Prime doesn't have to take away any thunder away from Hordak in this series like you so said.

Hordak can still be the main badass. Horde Prime's role to Hordak, could be like what the Ancient Spirits of Evil's roles are to Mumm-Ra in Thundercats.

Speaking of profile theorys, I once came up with one of my own a while back that states that Shadow Weaver was Evil-lyn's mother.

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