I know it's too late to reply but Jason being afraid of water in a dream is not asinine.
That's a non sequitur. I didn't say,
"By the way, the idea that Jason is afraid of water in dreams is asinine." If you allow for the asinine idea that Jason dreams, then sure, he can be afraid of water, or enjoy playing tiddlywinks, or whatever, in his dreams. Again, I said that the idea of him dreaming in the first place is asinine. He's supernaturally animated, i.e., he's not animated via biological functions like a real-life organism. How do we know? In part 6 he was shot in the forehead at close range with a .357 Magnum, and it didn't even faze him, which eliminates the possibility that his brain controls his functions. In part 7 he was so rotted away that most of his bones were visible, including his entire rib cage, which means there couldn't have been any functional brain matter left, especially considering how much of it would have been destroyed by the bullet in the previous movie. It also means that muscles aren't in any way responsible for his movements, given that they are largely nonexistent, and what's left of them is rotted (meaning, nonfunctional).
Dreams are a product of the brain; Jason functions without a functional brain or other vital organs, which makes the idea of him dreaming asinine. Sedatives having any effect on Jason is also asinine, because sedatives work by altering brain functions, and in order to do that, they use the circulatory system to reach the brain. For starters, Jason shouldn't have a functional circulatory system (see part 7), and for another thing, he doesn't have a functional brain for the drugs to affect in the first place. So what's supposed to be happening here? The drugs are affecting whatever supernatural force is animating Jason? That's asinine. Drugs work strictly on a biological level, and a supernatural force is not biological, by definition.
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GreenGoblinsOck8 (7951)
7 years ago
I'm sorry. But just because Jason is rotted and was brought to life by artificial means doesn't mean his brain doesn't work. I admit I haven't seen a large amount of Zombie movies but I would argue the brain still works in most of them. By your logic the premise of the monster learning to talk in The Bride of Frankenstein shouldn't work because the Frankenstein monster is basically dead rotted Flesh brought back to life and therefore shouldn't be able to talk cause his brain shouldn't work.
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MaximRecoil (4830)
7 years ago
>I'm sorry. But just because Jason is rotted and was brought to life by artificial means doesn't mean his brain doesn't work.
Yes, it does. Rotted flesh is inherently non-functional, you know, because it is inherently dead, and the rotting destroys its original structure. On top of that, brains which have been shot at close range with a .357 Magnum tend to become non-functional as well, due to massive tissue destruction. Ballistics gelatin is designed to approximate human tissue; see here what a .357 Magnum does to it, and you can get an idea of what it does to a brain - https://youtu.be/9ZJSGJqsVFg (just in case you were thinking a bullet just pokes a neat little hole like an arrow).
>I admit I haven't seen a large amount of Zombie movies but I would argue the brain still works in most of them.
Your argument holds no water, given that we saw him shot in the head in part 6 and it didn't faze him. Prior to part 6 it could be argued that he had a functional brain, but that's irrelevant, because FvJ takes place after part 6. Not having a functional brain doesn't mean he's "mindless" (which he obviously isn't), it just means his thinking and movements aren't happening on a biological level, which only leaves a supernatural level (such as his body being animated by his spirit/ghost, for example). Drugs can only act on a biological level, therefore they would be useless against Jason, just as a bullet to the head is useless against Jason (bullets also can only act on a biological level).
>By your logic the premise of the monster learning to talk in The Bride of Frankenstein shouldn't work because the Frankenstein monster is basically dead rotted Flesh brought back to life and therefore shouldn't be able to talk cause his brain shouldn't work.
First of all, it is not "my" logic, it is simply logic. Jason being shot in the head and not being fazed means his brain is not controlling his functions, period. Movies not from the F13 franchise are irrelevant.
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