A Detective Story - The Animatrix (2003) Discussion

[–] m0rg16 21 years ago

I really didn't like that episode. I thought it was way to short, and to little story to it.

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[–] jazzzjasper 21 years ago

Which only implies that this story has much more potential and therefore is by far the best of all the stories on animatrix...

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[–] nnq2603 9 years ago

Potential didn't turn into great result doesn't make it the best while other eps done really well (not just has potential). But the noir style of this seems to be able to justify the quality somehow. I still enjoy it.

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[–] Darth_Homer 21 years ago

Yeah, this one is really one of the best ones, also, you should go check out Cowboy Bebop (made by the director of this short) it's sometimes noir-ish, but it's one of the best examples of how anime should be made

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[–] PiranianRose 20 years ago

"This episode is one of the best example of Film Noir."

Maybe in some aspects such as the dark lighting, but I haven't seen any film noir that has voiceover narration, which is all over this segment.

So now, I am confused about this story: did Ash know Trinity personally before the encounter we see in the film? What's with his apologetic remark at the end, about the broken glass stuff? Also I have no idea what she means by "There's a difference between a test and a choice." Please point me to the right direction.

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[–] ibahl 20 years ago

Um, isn't voiceover narration supposed to be one of the trademark features of film noir?

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[–] PiranianRose 20 years ago

"Um, isn't voiceover narration supposed to be one of the trademark features of film noir?"

Not that I have seen. Got any examples?

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[–] SciFiGeek 20 years ago

There is a really interesting thing about this specific story in the Animatrix. I was also slightly confused by how Ash came to "know"...so...after watching it a few times, I put on the Japanese language track with the English subtitles.

And here's the deal with that--the subtitles of the English dub are completely different from the Japanese dub...so...

You find out a bit more about the story. Ash seems to catch on pretty quick to what's going on, and it seems (though you never see it) that there is a bit more conversation in a train car.

Put the Japanese language track on and get the English subtitles on, and you'll get a bit of a diffent take on that story...and many of the other stories as well.

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[–] stoned_soldier 20 years ago

don't wanna burst your bubble, but i thought that this was one of the worse episodes..

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[–] theyouthroom 20 years ago

umm... Noir IS supposed to be filled with voice-overs... examples? the two most recent examples of film noir that i've seen are max payne and sin city. and those are filled with voice-overs.

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[–] PiranianRose 19 years ago

<< umm... Noir IS supposed to be filled with voice-overs... examples? the two most recent examples of film noir that i've seen are max payne and sin city. and those are filled with voice-overs. >>

Well, it doesn't say much if the only sources of voice over in film noir are recent films (which blend other styles) that reference film noir. How about some original film noirs (from the 40s/50s) with extensive voice over narration?

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[–] christair_gnarjar 18 years ago

how about Double Indemnity. one of the all time classic noir films. voice overs are part of the iconography for film noir, one of the most integral parts to the genre

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[–] thornblade 20 years ago

I think It's one of the best episodes. I espetialy like those remarks to Alice In The Wonderland and Through The Looking-glass. The whole episode is filled with them. At one point I thought I'd here the quote from Jabberwocky - "'Twas briling and the slithy toves did gyre and gimble in the wabe" :))

And by the way. In my own opinion this is a good exaple of film noir.

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[–] stoned_soldier 19 years ago

to above posters: yes, this is film-noir. it's not even debateable

to thornblade: having another literary reference in a movie/art/whatever doesn't necessarily make it a good reason to watch.. not even a biblical one. though mythology does play a huge part in good art. i just thought that main character (the detective) was so weak, and had nothing of value to say and had no substance. i didn't feel bad when he died is what i mean.

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[–] koffeenkreame41-1 11 years ago

Yeah, I loved that too, ADS was one of my favorite stories.

"I am the ultimate badass, you do not wanna `*beep*` wit me!"- Hudson in Aliens.

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[–] CantiLOTBF 18 years ago

Loved the detective story. My personal favorite.
The art style and genre were perfect.
If you understand all the references to "Through the Looking Glass" it makes it a whole lot better.

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[–] syildirim89 18 years ago

yes it was probably the best... all the parts were brilliant but this one has something special. i especially loved the ending of this part!!

'And Saint Attila raised the hand grenade up on high saying, O Lord bless this thy hand grenade'

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[–] bon86 17 years ago

It was easily my favorite. I love the Detective, he was tough and cool.

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[–] ashogo 16 years ago

@curle-james
I don't agree with you that a film can't be noir without a voice over-many do, but some of the most famous of the genre also don't. Touch of Evil and Shadow of a doubt are a couple examples I can think of. VO narration definitely immediately brings film noir to mind though.

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[–] giaou13 16 years ago

You haven't watched any Jules Dassin's movies obviously...

THE WORLD IS YOURS

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