Are you the one who killed our friend? BOOM!
I love that part. Never in my wildest did I think that I would cheer for Kevin Costner. Costner let alone playing a complete bad@ss!
shareI'm just trying to start a dialogue here, but I sort of thought that exchange was a little cliched. Not Costner's reaction - that part I really like. It was the professional gunman's reaction. That smirk and the cocky voice. It seemed like he was trying to rile Costner's character, but I think it would have been better if he'd been contemptuous, taken his time, spat on the ground, and then answered with out any emotion, cocky or otherwise, in his voice. Because as a young cocky kid, I could see right off the bat that he couldn't keep up with charlie wait. But as a guy who doesn't care to spend any more time talking to a broken down saddle tramp like Charlie Wait than he has to, a guy who doesn't care about that gun at anybody's side, because most epople would hesitate and he wouldn't - well, to me, that seems more menacing. It would also be more of a charlie meeting his past self sort of situation.
But I do agree that Charlie's reaction is awesome.
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Okay, but that whole 'Yeah, and I enjoyed it' line, just seems so 'this is my concept of a truely villainous character.'
Lots of the historical killers of men in the old west wasted little time on words. Wild Bill's reply to the boaster that he could kill a bird on the wing, and would do the same to Bill: 'Birds don't shoot back.'
Or in Streets of Laredo, when that old outlaw is bragging about what a vicious killer he is to John Wesley Hardin, and Hardin just smiles, and lets someone else do his bragging.
The thing is, it didn't seem like it would ever be an equal contest between Butler and Wait. Now, I love the idea of two equals facing off and one winning by pure ruthlessness, but it didn't seem like it would even be a contest otherwise.
Did we see the same movie? I thought the response was perfect. He WAS cocky...with all those men standing beside him with guns, why wouldn't he be? As far as he knew Boss and waite were range men. Plus he was trying to impress the boss Denton....Remember the other great line he had at the jail............"oooooooeeeeeee....I think there's gonna be a new sheriff in town...hahahaha" The actor had STYLE...................
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The whole movie turned around for me here, going from a regular old scenery western to a gunslingin', memorable line saying, run through to a great shootout, I was so excited when it was all said and done.
I understand what Johnny is saying. I do not have a problem with that exchange at all, but I can see if it were done Johnny's way it would have been interesting as well. Charley's reaction is perfect and that part could never be changed without damaging the movie.
shareThanks, Randy. It was just a 'what-if' sort of comment, anyway. I still love the movie.
shareI thought the response was perfect.So do I. This is not really worth discussing IMO. share
"ots of the historical killers of men in the old west wasted little time on words."
I bet they didn't sneer and tease as bad as butler though. Perhaps why he wasn't a historical killer and was more a mindless freak with a gun.
That's a great point. After all, he didn't seem to amount to much when he came up against Charlie. All snap and no salt.
shareHe had to be cocky to justify his own killing without making it a difficult moment for the audience. So it was as the rest of the movie: cliche and bland. Seems to be what people take for greatness these days.
sharethat scene was absolutely unexpected! not sure who thought that up, the writer or the director but it was spot on.
You can imagine that happening in real life.
I also liked the part where they are trying to calm Charlie down and he says in a very emotional voice "stand aside"...that gave me the chill bumps because yu rarely get to truly feel what a character is feeling in that moment.
And in that moment I was afraid for what was coming.