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Do the producers have a say in who gets the dates/roses?


I'm watching Kaitlyn's season of Bachelorette right now and it was fairly clear from day one who she would pick at the end. I was wondering if the producers have a say in who gets to go on the dates/roses because if it were me I'd probably end up just picking the same one or two people for the one-on-one dates nearly every week. Probably why I'd make a terrible Bacherlorette.

Also I love this season. It's so dramatic and you could tell that Kaitlyn really cared for a few of the guys.

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AHHH ASIAN INEQUALITY SOUND THE ALARMS ALERT THE POPE IT'S THE END TIMES!!!

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Yawn

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Yes. They do. They have most of the say early on from what I can gather.

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Yes, it has been confirmed by multiple past Bachelor/ettes that the producers force their hands to a point. I don't believe they force them to choose the actual winner but there are contestants that the producers force them to keep for longer than they want to.

"Your petty vengeance fetish will have to do withOUT Mr. Groin!"

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but there are contestants that the producers force them to keep for longer than they want to.


Calling BS on this. Please provide one example of this happening.

I believe the producers have some say on who goes on the dates, but some of it is also up to the contestant.

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Calling BS on this. Please provide one example of this happening.


 Like it is such a stretch to believe that the producers call some of the shots on "reality" dating shows. They don't even try to HIDE it--many times you can see it all over the B/ette's face that they are dying of cringe when calling the name of some buffoon they don't like but have been told they must keep around longer because, let's face it, said buffoonery is highly entertaining and they want people to watch the show.

There have been multiple articles published in magazines about this. The one I most distinctly remember was an article in People a few years ago. I think it was a special edition or double issue (or whatever they call it) where this show was the main focus of the entire issue and they listed all of the B/ettes who have been on the show and did new interviews with some of them. Don't ask me to site the issue because I don't remember but I am fairly certain it was within the last five years.

There are also articles on the Internet where past Bachelors have stated that they have been forced to keep people they don't want on the show longer. Obviously those Bachelors could be lying but I don't know why they would and I have never read anything where the show has denied such claims. The Bachelors who made these claims were from seasons I did not watch and they did not (as I recall) specifically call out any contestant they were forced to keep on by name.

Anyway, I am not going to run around and do research and post links on something that is common knowledge.


"Your petty vengeance fetish will have to do withOUT Mr. Groin!"

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Another show that blatently does this is Hells Kitchen. There's always one loud *beep* that can't cook who Ramsay OBVIOUSLY hates and who sticks around until at least the half way point. The ONLY reality show which doesn't do it is Survivor, and MAYBE shows where 'America votes', but we all remember the American Idol fiasco...

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I have no opinion or knowledge of whether or not production decides who stays/goes, however in this instance...with this specific Bachelor.....wouldn't it have been counterproductive of them to have him give the date rose to such a divisive, polarizing, slutty girl? They are trying to establish him as "marriage material" and trying to rehabilitate his public image to being someone who is sincere about finding "the one."

Telling him to give the date rose to Corinne would (and did) make many voters lose respect for him and question his intentions for being there. So I'm not sure that it would have been a production decision on that one.

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She is the one everyone is talking about. Most of the second episode was focused on her. Just like they did Chad, just like they did Olivia. It's not about the viewers liking the bachelor, it's abt the viewers liking the drama. How can we make them talk about the show? Tweet? Complain on a message board? Corrine is a producers dream and you can bet she will be on bachelor in paradise.

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What voters? No one votes for the Bachelor... And ABC doesn't give two sh!ts about making Nick seem like marriage material now that the show has already been cast and finished. They want ratings, THAT'S IT. It's amazing how people still don't understand that the only reason ANYTHING is done on reality tv is purely for ratings.

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What voters? No one votes for the Bachelor...


Sorry, meant to write "viewers."

Maybe you're right. It certainly got people talking when he seemed to favor Corinne, although it just made people dislike Nick even more than they already did. But maybe they just don't care about that.

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There are also articles on the Internet where past Bachelors have stated that they have been forced to keep people they don't want on the show longer. Obviously those Bachelors could be lying but I don't know why they would and I have never read anything where the show has denied such claims. The Bachelors who made these claims were from seasons I did not watch and they did not (as I recall) specifically call out any contestant they were forced to keep on by name.


Funny that you can't even name a single name. I don't even need a source, just a name. I have looked on Reality Steve and other sites and have not found a single quote of someone being forced to keep someone on longer than they want when the PREMISE of the show is The Bachelor choosing who they want from week to week.

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I think the producers definitely try to influence the direction Nick takes. When he gave Corinne the date rose it may have been his decision. The producers could have also told him things to influence him to go that way.

I feel certain they are at least advised they can't pick the same girl for all the dates etc. If you watched the tv show Unreal it is about shoes like this but showing behind the scenes as well. It's fiction but I've heard aspects are very close to real life. On that show a lot of the times the producers plant seeds to guide the bachelor but also the competing girls.

I felt even on shows such as American Idol they tried to influence the way people vote. The packaging, the placement of when the singer performs, and the judges comments all can impact a viewers opinion. There have been plenty of times when I felt it was obvious who the producers were pushing to win.

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Anyone who doesn't think producers influence almost everything that happens on reality tv shows is naive to the extreme.

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Producers have a huge say in who gets to stay, who goes on dates, etc. Ali, Sean, and Courtney have all hinted that the final 3 and/or winner of their season were decided very early on, and the producers called the rest of the shots when it came to roses being handed out. Producers also plan all of the dates and decide who will get to go on each date.

Ali has also said that they never put two people the lead is really interested in on a two on one date. At least one of them is always someone that the lead has already told producers they're not into.

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Producers have a huge say in who gets to stay, who goes on dates, etc. Ali, Sean, and Courtney have all hinted that the final 3 and/or winner of their season were decided very early on, and the producers called the rest of the shots when it came to roses being handed out. Producers also plan all of the dates and decide who will get to go on each date.

Ali has also said that they never put two people the lead is really interested in on a two on one date. At least one of them is always someone that the lead has already told producers they're not into.


So if the producers decide who gets to stay, that means at a given rose ceremony the contestant is forced to let one person go who they'd prefer to keep over the person they are forced to give the rose to. Can you name one example where a lead had to do this?

Here is what Ali Fedotowsky had to say:

According to former bachelorette Ali Fedotowsky, the show’s producers decide who gets to stay if the bachelor/bachelorette is indifferent.


IF they are indifferent. That means if there is any integrity at all in these shows, it is that the lead at least has the option to pick which contestants they want to stay and if they don't care, then and only then the producers will decide.

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