The Duke of Windsor


Does anyone know if the portrayal of the Duke Windsor was accurate?

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The answer is both yes and no. As a "picture-postcard" portrayal of David the Man it was fairly close to the impression that comes across from verbatim accounts. Visually, however, there was absolutely nothing that remotely resembled the real man and no effort at all was made to replicate his way of speaking.

As for historical facts, well the film doesn't tell any lies but you are not going to get the plain truth in a 2-hour film that isn't even really about Edward Vlll!

It's not a bad film, but it is too superficial, and serious viewers should watch it with an English person who is intelligent enough to amplify and explain what is either shown or omitted.

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Yes, David & Mrs. S. were played as pantomime villains as a contrast to Bertie & Liz, but it was VERY overdone. Obviously it's a play, not a documentary, so what you see mustn't be mistaken for fact. It's a dramatisation of real events so that people can follow what's going on, even if that means over-simplifying.

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There have been various accounts of Edward VIII(David).Some say that he had pro Nazi sympathies, if Hitler had invaded England, Edward could have been put back on the throne as a "puppet king".

The giving up the crown for "love", could have been a conveniant cover story. Perhaps the real reason, for him having to abdicate was the British Goverment saw him as being too Pro-German,and would capitulate as WW2 approached.

Some accounts say that Edward (David) was untrustworthy and indescreet and during WW2 talked about things he should not have done. He and Wallis,it is said kept the company of some very unsavory people (possibly even German spies).He was made Governor of the Bahamas to "get him out of the way" and stop him talking to the wrong people and revealing secrets.

There are stories, that when in America they were followed and "kept tabs on" by the FBI, and that J Edgar Hoover had a number of his (infamous) files on them and the people they associated with.

I think that there are many facets to the story, some of which may be truth, half truth, or downright lies.Although i don't think that the real story may ever be told and for years to come the left the throne for love story will remain the "official" one.

Interesting documentary on the topic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-bVcRB7CF0

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I'll agree with the answer "Yes and No." There's only so much that can be done in a movie and yes, David was not even the main subject.

That said, I think thoughts of oversimplifying and exaggeration of him and Wallis is because this is told from Bertie and Elizabeth's point of view. The points that Wallis did mock Elizabeth, that Bertie thought surely David would not really abdicate (no monarch in British history or English history had ever done so voluntarily), and felt very much betrayed that David would lie to his own brother about money - that would cause hard feeling in most families, duty to the monarchy and the nation aside. David's intense focus on constantly badgering for money and even more important in his eyes the HRH for Wallis over and above any thoughts of his brother's problems or health or anything else is spot on from eye witnesses' view. Referring to Elizabeth and to Queen Mary as "ice-veined bitches" is true.

I think the portrayal seems like oversimplifying simply because of the time factor. They do make a point that the brothers were close pre-Wallis. And that their relationship changed drastically with the abdication - it would have been very surprising if it hadn't.

This is the first film that really portrays Edward VIII and Wallis Simpson in an almost totally bad light. One has to remember that this film was released after the Queen Mother's death (it's first release in New Zealand was literally days after her death), and that she had requested that no films be made directly about her until she passed on. Specifically, she did not want to go on record, or want her words to go on record, about the abdication crisis until she was gone. I can't blame her.

But this is not so much oversimplication as it is a good deal of information given very quickly. Read Shawcross' biography of Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon that was released this year and you'll find a good deal of what's in this film documented, from her own accounts or from those close to her. I had seen this film when it first aired, but on rewatching it now I could see how much this agreed with Shawcross' findings, some of which came from Elizabeth's private letters and diaries.

Of course, there is more to David and Wallis' story that just Elizabeth or Bertie's viewpoint, and that is why I agree that it both is and isn't an accurate representation of them. But I think it is accurate from the royal couple's viewpoint.

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I got the feeling that David was dominated by Wallis Simpson, in fact, everything I've ever seen or read seemed to indicate that. I'd love to know the real story.

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'Edward V111: The Plot To Topple A King' is a good documentary to watch. It concerns the Archbishop of Canterbury's determination to make David abdicate because of his devotion to Wallis Simpson. I think it is generally agreed that David was a playboy royal who wasn't really interested in becoming a traditional monarch.

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His biggest concern was money, apparently. Because of his income from the Duchy of Cornwall, and from having been the Prince of Wales, his father didn’t leave him a share in his estate. David was angry not to have inherited his portion and had a huge concern of being able to live up to his promise to Wallis of living in grand style.

He was always looking for ways to save money from the royal purse. He hated Sandringham and resented the huge costs required to run the place. He laid off over 100 members of the staff—people who had been faithful retainers to the royal family for years, and were now losing their incomes were it not for the Duke and Duchess of York finding places for some of them at their own home.

He set in motion plans to sell off the farms surrounding Sandringham. This was stopped by the abdication. He would have sold Sandringham off completely, given the chance. George VI, who had not had the benefit of earning money from a duchy, like Edward VIII, had to borrow money to purchase Sandringham, Fort Belvedere and Balmoral fromhis brother. These properties were owned by David outright. Balmoral and Sandringham were left to him In his father’s will, yet because he didn’t inherit any cash from his father, he felt cheated and unfairly dealt with. What a baby.

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