why would it be ecks vs. sever WHEN THEY TEAM UP MORE THEN HALF WAY INTO THE MOVIE!?!?!?!?!!?!?!? the writer is a dumbass. and the director sucks. ive seen his other work, 'fah'....that just plain sucked. but seriously WHY WOULD THEY NAME IT THAT?!?!??!?!?!?...i mean ecks vs. sever. and i dont even get wtf the ballistic is about. and the plot of the movie is boring. i cant beleieve poor lucy liu actually took this part. it makes me think about her career. also banderas...hes like 43 or something. maybe he should take a nap fromt he entertainment industry cuz his career is going downhill anyway.(and hes ugly too) so anyway yeah im done.
"also banderas...hes like 43 or something. maybe he should take a nap fromt he entertainment industry cuz his career is going downhill anyway.(and hes ugly too) so anyway yeah im done."---scream4me
43 is not old! In any case, I thought this was one of Banderas' best performances. Should we really blame and blackball actors because of a movie they were in, regardless of their performance or involvement? It was not his fault the movie did poorly. I think Kaos is a good, well-meaning director with a practical sensibility that seems to have vanished from the current film industry. We need someone to rescue us from the George Lucases and Steven Spielbergs of the world, and I think he is the best guy for the job. I think he should get in a tag-team UFC-style-match with Keita Amemiya against Lucas and Spielberg
Yeah, some of the action scenes were slow and boring, but that is only because he was trying something new. That is nothing to get upset over (anyway, who gets upset over a movie--whatever happened to just not liking it?). I do admit the story was just shy of non-existant, but considering this writer's past efforts, He could have done worse.
So, leave Mr. Banderas, Mr. Kaos, and Ms. Liu alone! How old do you think an actor should be before they retire?
I agree with you Tbone2882,you can't blame this mess on the actors,the writing and editing was awful.As for Banderas,he looks a lot cooler in the trailer for Once Upon A Time In Mexico,younger too.
Sad sad sad. People who think that 43 is aged for a Hollywood actor, ruin the movie industry. Those are the people that the coward producers listen to and they make movies that promote mostly young and beautiful actors. Thank God there still are some of them who dare to produce good movies without thinking about age, but let's face it. How many good scripts are written for the older actors? And the older actresses too. 43 is old.. My God!
Johnny Depp, Tom Cruise, Viggo Mortensen, Sean Penn, Bill Murray, Mike Myers, Brad Pitt, Antonio Banderas, Pierce Brosnan, Tom Hanks, Denzel Washington, Jim Carrey, Eddie Murphy, Ian McKellen, Nicholas Cage, Ben Kingsly, Tim Robbins, Alec Baldwin, George Clooney, Jack Nicholson, William H Macy, and Greg Kinnear are all actors over 40 and can still pull in the dough and/or award nominations/wins. 30 to 40 is the high peak of acting careers.
I think the problem that most people have with this movie is that they're expecting too much..but y'know what? They really shouldn't. It was based off of a GBA first-person shooter, for god's sake. A FPS! If you can name more than two FPS's that put plot over explosions, then let me know. I personally think they did a fine job of translating all that mindless action into a movie. And the name was probably kept the same, because..well..it was based off the game Ecks vs. Sever. So there ya go.
I think the problem that most people have with this movie is that they're expecting too much
-Ando
Why didn't the movie-makers take it less seriously then? If we're supposed to go into the movie with no expectations of plot, why'd they give us so many damned incoherent plot points to digest. Do away with the convoluted story (about nanotechnology and overcoming differences to save...blah, blah, blah). Then you'd be left with a Spy vs. Spy concept (ala Mad TV) upon which to heap loads of mindless action to translate video game into the awesome movie that could've been...oh well.
"I think the problem that most people have with this movie is that they're expecting too much..but y'know what? They really shouldn't. It was based off of a GBA first-person shooter, for god's sake. A FPS! If you can name more than two FPS's that put plot over explosions, then let me know. I personally think they did a fine job of translating all that mindless action into a movie. And the name was probably kept the same, because..well..it was based off the game Ecks vs. Sever. So there ya go. "
far cry, half-life, GTAIII/VC(can be considered shooters i guess), halo, hitman, max payne 1, max payne 2, deus x, splinter cell 1/2(close enough) (soon to be half-life 2, halo 2)all had or will have decent stories just to name a few.
Er, how many of them are actually 'first person shooters'? Hitman, Max Payne, Splinter Cell, GTA - none of these are first person shooters, and Dues Ex is more of a first person adventure game.
Anyway, that geeky rant over, the original thread was about the title, and as someone above has pointed out, it's based on a series of Gameboy Advance games called Ecks vs Sever - so changing the name would have been pointless (rather like making the film in the first place).
Don't forget the Marathon Series. And probally the orginal Unreal. Yeah, I know that's not the point of this thread, but oh well what the hell, you asked.
I show this movie to people whom I want to sit down and cry. I laughed so hard when I watched it.
i liked this movie because i read all these reviews saying it was crap n it wasnt as bad as i thought it was, who knows if everyone hyped about and it got as much coverage as lotr and matrix it as much as people did with the matrix and lord of the rings it might be considered good.( personally i think matrix is overrated and lotr didnt really interest me but thats just my opinion n i wouldnt be rude to someone cuz they liked it either so i dont expect it back cuz i like this movie) oh and by the way ".(and hes ugly too)"arnt you being abit pityful here, i mean why dont you post a picture of yourself and we can all have ago and point out your bad features. and as for your arguement about the name i dont think "ecks and sever both team up and vs someone else" is a good name as a alturnative (im being sarcastic)its not really fair to judge the movie by the name. thats like saying you cant called resident evil resident evil because the residents were only evil once they died and came back (which wasnt thru the entire movie either). altho i did enjoy this movie the middle half was abit boring and the plot could use some work on it but it wasnt that bad. sorry if im seeming rude by the way im just sick of going onto every message board and reading how bad it is and how its "the worse movie EVER" when its not really called for. if your gona diss a movie give it a real reason to not like it rather than oh hes ugly lets not like this movie.
"dont think 'ecks and sever both team up and vs someone else' is a good name as a alturnative (im being sarcastic)"
WOW..... you are one of the dumbest people i've ever come acrossed in the forums here.
what you just said is that you like the idea of calling the movie 'ecks and sever both team up and vs someone else'. i know thats not what you meant, but that IS what you said. Also, "...is a good name as a alturnative" should be "...is a good name as an alternative" .. did you flunk out of school or something?
here are some more, for your own personal education:
"altho" should be "although" "pityful" should be "pitiful" "n" should be "and" "arguement" should be "argument"
also the "resident" in "resident evil" has nothing to do with THE RESIDENTS you f ucking imbecile.. it just means that the evil is here and very real. christ. i hope english wasn't your first language.
as far as how terrible this movie is, just look at the box office numbers. there can be a little leeway in those, but when a movie costs 90 million dollars and only returns 20 million WORLDWIDE, thats a f ucking terrible movie. sorry.. even the few people that watched this movie hated it. you're in a very very small fan club here.
again, you are very very very dumb and i hope you choke on your own tongue. if not, you may be responsible for the deaths of many good and decently smart people
God dammit you f ucking morons. It is not based GBA games. The GBA games were based a script for the movie. The movie was supposed to be badass and produced a lot earlier than it was. Also, Max Pay and Hitman ARE INDEED first person shooters as you can switch to first person mode in either of them. Also, the *beep* that said Halo has a god story, should be shot. It was all about explosions and action. That game is so god damn overrated. It was 5 years behind a hundred other games in graphics and gameplay. Bungie threw it together very quickly in order to have some releases for the XBOX.... They've since decided to make Halo 2 a real game.
ok ill reword what i said, the reason i liked this movie was because it was mindless action. if you think to hard about a movie you can find holes in it, of course there are plot holes in this (pretty much any movie can have them) when i read that it was a crappy movie i was expecting bad fights and a stupid plot and i got one of them (bad plot) which was still bareable for me. the fight scene was what i was really after n i enjoyed them
Anyway, that geeky rant over, the original thread was about the title, and as someone above has pointed out, it's based on a series of Gameboy Advance games called Ecks vs Sever - so changing the name would have been pointless (rather like making the film in the first place).
From imdb trivia for Ballistic: Ecks vs. Sever: The 2001 Game Boy Advance game "Ecks vs. Sever" was actually based on an early script draft for this film and not the other way around. The game's producers later made a sequel to that game that was based on the finished version of the movie.