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Understanding the ending (spoilers)


I need some help understanding the ending.

I'm guessing all of this actually happened and wasn't just a figment of Angela's imagination while she was drawing her comic. Did Larissa survive the stabbing incident and was recovering at Kruilman's? Yamamoto was somehow in on it (another one of the girls told a similar story of meeting a DJ and then going to Tokyo) and to keep Angela from talking, they supported her comic?

If I understand it right, since there was no murder cover-up, this was all just an attempt to keep the events quiet, because if someone did go to the police, the girls would be deported and the business men couldn't enjoy them anymore? Since nobody actually died, it seems like they all got paid off in a way that would ensure everybody benefitted in the end. It looked like the other girls were playing with presents they got at the end of the last party.

But if that's all the case, why support Angela's comic, which tells the story of the events? Or was the contract and the money for her to keep quiet and they never intended to publish the comic?

At the very end, she seems to be back home with Yamamoto. What was his ultimate part in this? During his travels in Europe, he would find new girls to send back home? But when he met Angela, he fell in love and decided to stay with her?

Even with all these questions, I thought it was a a very enjoyable film!

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I'm pretty sure the ending was a drug hallucination, otherwise it would seem like a too-pat happy ending, with Larissa not being killed, the "contract" for her comic, all that cash and everyone hanging out happy while she sketches away.

I really enjoyed this movie.

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i was confused as well, my friends insisted that the basic plot of the story was real but she fabricated the dramatic events.

but the ending seems like the fakest thing in the whole movie

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Here is my take on the story. All events at the ending happened. It was a genuine great happy ending. It dispelled all the fright, mystery, and dark evilness of Angela's fantastic experience up to that point. The party at the surreal house was not really a terribly evil place; it was merely some Japanese businessman inviting (and paying for) girls to liven up a party. In a previous party where Larissa was stabbed, that event was accidental. And apparently the host, Kruilman, tried his best to help Larrisa by keeping her in the house to slowly recover. The story was developed intentionally to create a mystical giant evil cover-up of what happened at the first party. But in the end, it went to show that: yes, there might had been too much alcohol flowing around, and yes, the businessmen were enjoying the company of "call girls", but these businessmen were not the sinister underworld that kidnapped young girls deliberately and murdering them.

The flow of the story portrayed a very imaginary young girl (Angela) who bravely and naively came to a foreign country which she knew little of. And her only safe retreat to cope with this mysterious world was pouring her energy into her comic drawings. Drawing comics was to her the same expressive channel as writing a diary. She put her fear, observation, speculation, and wild imagination into events that happened around her.

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My wife and I just saw TSG and enjoyed it a lot. But like most, we are unsure of the ending also. She's more a "pessimist" and I am more an "optimist", and yet we both feel that the ending was indeed a set-up to cover for murder (or at least an accidental homicide). Why would Angela be forced to get high before introducing her to the view of Larissa? Why not just show her what's happening? Perhaps because in a drugged state it is easier to somehow deceive her with an alternative Larissa? In any case, an interesting film, with an intriguing look at Tokyo. And my, is Chloe Winkel not an absolutely provocative and beautiful woman!

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I'm guessing the director chose to have this ending wide open, but this is my take on it:

I don't think any of it happened. I think Angela is an artist with a vivid imagination, and the whole story is just something she devised. In the final scene when she is sketching Yamamoto while looking at him out the window, it looks like the other two people in the garden might be two of the girls in the story (maybe Larissa or Monica). It's hard to tell. Maybe this is a case of "Wizard of Oz" where all the people she knows end up in the story. Instead of a wicked witch, we have a wicked japanese businessman. Her ending, if it were real, does seem a little too far-fetched.

"Hi, I'm a Japanese businessman who just happens to be in the business of signing artists and I also just happen to have a fondness for blondes who all happen to work in the same club and happen to have been offered the whole Japanese trip through some random DJ (atleast that's true of Monica, if not the others) who also happens to be a buddy of mine. Oh, and don't worry about that girl you stabbed sweetie; we'll let you believe she's dead, but she's just chillin' at my place livin' the good life while you bunk 5 deep in a tiny apartment selling yourselves to get by."

I don't believe it for a second. My money is on the Dorothy story, and she definitely never left Kansas.

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Yeah, that's my understanding of the whole story too.

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After thinking this through for a bit I decided that the majority of the story is fabricated. It is real up until Yamamoto throws the rock. I beleive that splash signifies the breaking point. Everything from there on is in Angela's imagination. This explains the strange and sappy ending. She gets a contract for her drawing, Larissa is fine, etc. Then she snaps back to reality. She is finishing up the story in her room at home in Germany and Yamoto, whom she has since become close with, is in the back. When she is drawing the murder of Larissa for the first time she draws several very specific japanese men in attendance. When she actually goes to the house these same men are there. To me this is as good of proof as any. She couldn't have known what they would look like until she had been there, thus it was in her imagination all along.

On the whole an enjoyable film, loved the way it was shot, who was the DP? Does anyone know what it was shot on?

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Hi Comdeicgruge, reading your post makes me very interesting, indeed you could be right !!!!!!!!!!

in the end, while she is drawing, it all could be her imgainery (e.g. what if I went to Japan along and, blablabla)

Start + Ending ---> real (she is in her room drawing)

Middle ---> her drawing part (imaginery)

Anyway, I wrote my understaing of TGS here. (nothing too complicated)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0306097/board/thread/25487392?d=32845964#32845964

Cheers

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Hmmm in my opinion the whole story is a surreal comment about the way in which people react and what shapes their existence.

From the start, the whole piece is very surreal with all the characters beautiful or unique, with clear and sharp cinematography that enhances the surreal nature of what is going on. The concept of the completely alien culture that these rich Japanese business men want to gather together in bizarre clubs to associate with blonde english speaking darlings is so completely foreign to us that we cannot understand why this is happening.

From the luck of the fight that got her employed as a worker at the club, through her reactions and behaviour - the way she, despite spurning some of the other girls for acting like hussies and bitches pretents to be a lolita style 15 year old to please the business men; this shows the way people react to situations.

What defines how we act - our culture, our upbringing? What is the core of being a human? How does a human react? These questions are raised in the contrast of the cultures, the cartoons - what is real?

On the topic of the whole Larissa death scandal, i think the end is entirely truthful in the scope of the film. Larissa is alive, and nothing was that sinister. The overwhelming feeling of seedy Japanese business men, the illegal and dark idea ofimporting the women at the encouragement of the Japanese DJ boy; these show the surreal nature of what is going on. This enhances the concept of what is real and what isn't, what makes us who we are. It raises all sorts of philosophical questions about the nature of humanity. The way in which she is rewarded and becomes an artist (we assume) further pushes this point.

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My take on the ending was she imagined and drew the entire story. A story staring her friend Yamamoto and the other girls in the yard. And after this bout of intense creativity, she did what a lot of teenage girls would do. She danced, listening to a discman, over the closing credits.

I may be wrong, and I will see it again to be sure. Having seen the end, the scene resulting in her flying to Japan may be easier to pick as fact or fantasy.

On the whole, it is a beguiling film. Beautifully understated. Rarely do I watch something and then immediately plan to see it again. Soon.

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I just saw the movie and i can't believe so many people here are actually thinking that the events really happened - you didn't get the movie at all(!)

The whole Japan only happened in her imagination (and drawings), that's why she is "back" in her house at the end - she was never even gone.

You remind me of those people that don't understand the ending of "Fight Club" ...

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Actually, the story isn't fabricated.

Just before the end, she reaches in her backpack to take out the pearls, you can also see the "wanted" poster of Larissa.

Though, my take on it is that she made up the ending. She got drugged, probably carried out of the country - who knows?

However, the whole story seems verry detailed and well portrayed, while the ending is rushed and gives a complete surreal bubblegum-feeling to it. As she sais: "All story's have to have a happy ending." She made it up BECAUSE there was none. What actually happenned after the drug use is left to our imagination.

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No.

The pearls and the poster are there to show where she got the inspirations from.

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But where did she get those from? With the japanese letters on it and everything?
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well she said something about needing to wrap up the story in a nice happy manga tradition.......

so the story was a deliberate happy cartoon ending on a positive note.

But of course, the bad guy would not be taking cake to a missing girl.

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Even I have a few things with Japanese characters on them. They're around. It's not cuneiform or sanscrit, just Japanese!

I've noticed that many asian imported goods come wrapped in scrap paper from the country of origin, to keep the items protected during shipping. I've received items wrapped in asian newspapers, menus, instruction sheets...an obsolete "missing" leaflet that could have been posted all over the place is not so far fetched either. Maybe our protagonist ordered some art supplies from Japan and that came in the package as padding. Maybe....?

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Yeah, but, well, C'mon... this sound seven more fabricated than her ending!! XD

I mean, sure, one might assume that all this was joust randomly "found" or collected by her, but really, it doesn't make much sense to me. ;) Like "Oh, all this stuff, I might make up that this really attractive DJ got me to Tokyo etc." I would agree, if the film would look more like the ending, but with the ending clearly out of style, I still believe that the drugging is the turning point.

After repeated viewings, I also noticed, that actually the other girls allways describe the accident in a really different way, due to the drug usage. Like, with the men being dressed up as women etc.

The question here was for me: When she was actually drugged, then how did the ending really take place - considering, that what we see, is what took place from her pov.

Then again, the more I think about it, the more it makes sense to me, that after being drugged, she woke up on a plane or something - not implying that a murder did take place, but that they wanted to clean the thing up.
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I just rewatched the film.

If you pay close attention to the beginning, you can see her bag and the japanese stuff sticking out.

I REALLY think by what Oberg shows us, that it's not all in her mind. The stuff from Japan (the poster etc.) is not just a metaphor, but serves to show us that there was something real attached to it. By blending back to germany just before the ending takes place (that still feels very rushed and out of place), this is the only conclusion I can draw.

To say "Well, the stuff in the bag is just a metaphor" is quite inappropriate imho. Sure, the film plays with reality/imagination and how one is led to believe what he (or rather, in this case, she) sees, but I would not go that far to say it was all made up.
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To me this are all ending explanation possibilities.

A. Whole story is her imagination. Least possible, since there is way too many details about life in Japan that a young person shouldn't know.

B. Everything in the ending is real. Big contract, nobody dies, return home. That one is just too surreal.

C. She goes to that party and there she dies. In the end we see her telling her story from afterlife. I don't like that one, especially if we believe that Larissa's death was an accident.

D. The one that I like the most. She is telling her story (writing comic) from her house, after she returns from Japan. Everything till the last party is real, then she distort her story. Like she said, she wants to have good end, with hero winning. What probably happened is that she did go to that party. Nothing good or particularly bad happens there, drugs, maybe sex. Most importantly they explain her how Larissa's death was an accident and that it would be for all to be quiet about it. She then returns home and there draws her comic. Only drawback to that conclusion is Yamamoto sunbathing on her garden.

E. Same as D. She just doesn't return home. She stays in Japan, doing what she did before.

Ps. I took for granted that the part of her leaving too Japan on a word from DJ is real, because there is a lot of true stories of girls being lured into prostitution. Most of them are from eastern Europe, but it is also true that Angela's nationality isn't revealed.

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I think C is the answer.
reasons:
-Girls force Angela to go to the party.
-She wants to get out of the taxi because she knows something bad is going to happen.
-The girls make her smoke the kumo pipe when she says she doesn't want to. I believe they want her to be unconcious so she cannot defend herself or try to run away.
- Even if Larissa's death was an accident they could be forced to kill a second time to cover the first murder. After all, if they are capable of putting glass into someone's soup they are pretty much capable of anything.

For me, everything that happens after she starts smoking the kumo pipe is a fantasy, the end she wanted for her story, where the hero always wins.

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Maybe director's (also writer) "Production Notes", from http://www.stratospheregirl.com/_pages/production-notes.php will shatter the doubts surrounding this beautiful film (in case that someone did't already found that webpage).

And, of course, I must say that Chloé Winkel is amazingly beautiful, her innocence and pureness seem out of this world!

I'm anxiously waiting for the sequel... ^-^

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To me this are all ending explanation possibilities.

A. Whole story is her imagination. Least possible, since there is way too many details about life in Japan that a young person shouldn't know.

B. Everything in the ending is real. Big contract, nobody dies, return home. That one is just too surreal.

C. She goes to that party and there she dies. In the end we see her telling her story from afterlife. I don't like that one, especially if we believe that Larissa's death was an accident.

D. The one that I like the most. She is telling her story (writing comic) from her house, after she returns from Japan. Everything till the last party is real, then she distort her story. Like she said, she wants to have good end, with hero winning. What probably happened is that she did go to that party. Nothing good or particularly bad happens there, drugs, maybe sex. Most importantly they explain her how Larissa's death was an accident and that it would be for all to be quiet about it. She then returns home and there draws her comic. Only drawback to that conclusion is Yamamoto sunbathing on her garden.

E. Same as D. She just doesn't return home. She stays in Japan, doing what she did before.


Good analysis. Any one of them could be the director/writer's intent.

My gut reaction was C. As in "American Beauty" or "Sunset Boulevard", the narrator is an omniscient character who crosses between the story & reality, life & death.

On further analysis, I decided A was the most plausible.

But after checking out the DVD extras, I think D is what the director/writer intended. As he tells it, the whole story came from a girl sitting next to him on a plane, telling him about her bizarre & unpleasant week in Tokyo working as a hostess. She had a black eye but was alive obviously.

M.X. Oberg probably went home and imagined how that girl would tell her story to others, perhaps re-working the unpleasant ending with something happier. So in other words, it was an awful, sordid experience, but she lived through it and eventually decided to give herself a happy ending instead of the black eye.

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