Joss Whedon and his fans

In my opinion, Firefly might be his weakest because it's so short, it never had time to conclude or even start any deep story.

Buffy is his masterpiece and in my opinion, the best show ever made. It's a little slow at the beginning, but it becomes legendary in its second season and never looks back.

Angel also starts slow, but once it gains its own legs and stops leaning on Buffy, it gets really great.

Dollhouse, his 4th show, is also better than Firefly in my opinon because it he didn't mess around with too many "story of the week" episodes and jumped right into the mythology. Plus, with Dollhouse, they get twice as many episodes as Firefly had, and were even allowed to give it a real proper ending, it's great.

I'd say try either Buffy or Dollhouse, both are great. Buffy suffers from real low production values in its first couple seasons, and the first season especially has its bad moments, but once it starts gaining momentum in season 2, its unstoppable.

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Firefly is far and away my favorite TV show, not just of JW's. I like the others very much also.

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I think Buffy and Firefly are on pretty equal footing, so if you think Buffy would be worth a watch if it was only half as good as Firefly, I say absolutely watch it. The characters are indeed quite good.

I like Whedon's shows more than most, but I think Firefly and Buffy are the standouts.

As someone already mentioned, season 1 does start out slow (with a few extremely cheesy episodes). But it also has a few good episodes and it sets up the characters and the universe well.


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Are his other shows, Buffy, Angel ect as good as Firefly?

Buffy is his best show. It's really the only place where that quippy way Whedon writes all of his characters makes sense, and the tone of Buffy doesn't make it feel jarring when someone makes a sarcastic flippant "funny" remark in the middle of something serious.

Dollhouse isn't very good, just save your time and watch La Femme Nikita (the movie) or Point of No Return...and then maybe watch the last episode where they're driving around in the vehicle from Vampire Hunter D Bloodlust or Land of the Dead if you feel the need to know how Dollhouse ends after that. Never really gave a *beep* about the Angel show, just seems like an uninteresting version Buffy.

watch Buffy! And make sure you start watching angel synchronised, chronologically. The shows don't entwine often but it is necessary if you want to understand everything. Buffy might seem a little tacky at start but it gets better the whole series. Also you need to realise the rare CGI can be pretty bad, not comparable to the CGI in firefly. I re-watched firefly recently and I can't understand how a TV show from 2002-2003 could have that good CGI.

I haven't really watched the other shows, but I don't know how Firefly could be the weakest of them all. I have no doubt that Buffy and the other series are quite good, but the network screwed Firefly up from the beginning ("sorry, we don't like this pilot. Can you write and shoot another in two days, please?"). I mean, how do you take the two hour premier, meant to introduce viewers to the world and all the show's characters, and then stick it at the very end? Serenity, the pilot, was the last aired episode before cancellation. Then, the show was promoted as an action/comedy hybrid in space.

What?

While there are comedic elements, absolutely, and there are moments of real action--FOX completely dropped the ball in every possible way a series could be handled.

"Tony Soprano is a trash man, and head of an Italian-American family trying to make good. Check out The Sopranos, a real laugh riot, new this fall on FOX!"

Thank God they didn't get that classic. Jackie Aprile would have died in season three, two years after Tony and the crew toasted him at the Bing.

FOX are a bunch of neanderthals collectively, and while I am not a violent person, if I could meet the half-wit that made the ultimate decision to take Firefly off the air, I'd cold cock them in a heartbeat.

Just look at the episodes that were aired, and the ones that were released on DVD/Blu that were not. As much as I love the early ones, the later ones are even better. Heart of Gold and Objects in Space are in my top five of the fourteen. If the plug hadn't been pulled, there's no telling how high the Serenity would have flied. It's in the stratosphere already, as it is.

I will never, ever give out hoping that there will be more. Even if it's just another movie, I will go to my grave believing that the Serenity will fly again. Joss will make it happen somehow.

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Buffy is a masterpiece.. HOWEVER - please don't give up on it in the first season, as overall it's really cheesy and basically, quite crap. I watched from season 2 and at the end of it bought season 1 and 2 on dvd so i could watch it all from the start.. and i was like.. is this the same show? I watched it through and have done so multiple times, as when I watch Buffy i have to do it 1 through 7 properly - and season 1 is BY FAR the weakest. Just put up with it and know, that for sure the best is yet to come. Season 2/3/5 and 7 are my favourites, i still have a soft spot for the very dark 6 but it's not my favourite, and although season 4 has one of the best episodes of television ever (hush), it's still not my favourite season either.

Angel had it's flaws but the first three seasons especially were excellent, the way they went with Cordy never really flew with me.

If you want to watch it all in chronological order, watch the first 3 seasons of buffy, then season 4 of buffy/1 of angel, 5 of buffy/2 of angel, 6 of buffy/3 of angel,7 of buffy/4 of angel, then 5 of angel is a standalone so to speak, watch that last. It has a sort of open ending though as it was prematurely axed so if you are up to it i would read the follow up comics on how the story continues. I was totally satisfied with Buffy's ending, it was done to perfection IMO, so I never followed the story after that, but of course if it was ever on again i would watch it in a heartbeat. SMG *is* buffy though so i'd never watch it without her and allison hannigan. I hope they never ever ever reboot it with different actors, if it ever continues and even if SMG is 50 by then LOL i'd still rather it be her.

To this day no show has had me caring about the characters as much as Buffy.. the emotion was intense.. and it was about kids coming of age and dealing with the everyday challenges of life as much as it was about vampires and monsters- it all blended together perfectly and never got too soap-ish. I don't know how Joss does it but he is a master at having you really feel for the characters.