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Criminal Trials in London




Just thought I'd mention this to fans of this show and others like it: On a recent visit to London we attended a murder trial at The Old Bailey and it was something to see.

We had been to a civil trial earlier (coincidentally the case involved Bruce Springsteen suing his manager and as we are Americans we enjoyed seeing "The Boss" in that setting.) but this was very different.

We queued up in an alley outside the main courthouse of the Bailey and were soon screened, searched and educated on what was proper for visitors. Once upstairs (and I do mean upstairs--no lifts) we queued again and were briefed about the charges and warned that this defendant was considered to be of the most dangerous sort---guarded by five officers --and that the details might be disturbing to some people.

With all this in mind we were escorted into the viewing gallery. The setting was just as one might imagine, the robed and bewigged Judge and barristers looked very much like the set of one of the many British crime dramas we enjoy at home.

Although this was riveting the gravity of the case soon weighed down on us. This man before us was accused of murdering his domestic partner and later attacking and attempting to rape and nuder a woman he saw in a neighborhood park simply because she resembled the woman he had just killed.

He had very little in the way of a defense but his representatives were arguing "diminished capacity" which is similar to what we would call in the U.S. mental illness.

Naturally this was settled the day we were there but I read later in British papers that his defense had failed and he was sentenced to life without parole.

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So they let the general public in to witness murder trials as a form of entertainment?

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Well, if the likes of Court TV are allowed to air trials of all types of criminal cases in the US, why shouldn't the general public be permitted to view the proceedings up close and personal? Further, a government class I attended in college included viewing a day's session at the US Supreme Courthouse. Why? Not for entertainment, but to gain a better understanding of how the highest court in the land conducts its business.

While some cases compel "closed-door" trials, the vast majority are carried out in open courtrooms.
We will lose a critical civil liberty if the day ever comes where trials at all levels of US courts are conducted in secrecy behind closed doors. Scary and reminiscent of the Inquistions during the medieval ages.


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I was responding to the OP's description of what sounded like tourists queuing to see murder trials so that they can see something that's like their favorite UK tv shows.

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In the UK, unless there is an issue relating to national security, everyone has the right to a public trial. It is not a form of entertainment, but a way in which the public, including journalists, can view trials as no recording devices are permitted. A case conducted in secrecy, unless pertaining to national security or the safety of jurors or other endangered individuals, is frowned upon. The British justice system allows all defendants to be given a fair trial open to the public, in order to conduct its proceedings in as transparent a manner as possible.

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Exactly. It is the same in Canada. I don't know about the US, but as they actually televise some of their trials, I would think so. It would be rare that a case would be closed to the public unless there was some national security or actual safety issue with opening it to the public. And I'm sure that the preferred method would be to exclude the public from portions of a trial rather than the trial in totality if such an issue arose outside of those areas, for example, for the testimony of a particularly vulnerable witness. Incidentally, I have had the opportunity to sit in on a Supreme Court case, which was fascinating to watch. I've also seen lower level courts, but not an appeal court yet. I was of course never there for entertainment purposes - I was present with other students for education purposes as the justices were most certainly aware. Of course in real life the level of decorum maintained in the court room is much higher than on television as far as I have been able to observe (and thank goodness no wigs in Canada) ;)

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