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Why Didn't Bob Crane Just Work In The Porn Industry of the 70's ?


Looking at this movie, and considering the real private life of Bob Crane, one wonders why he didn't just become a porn star. He clearly had a strong sexual addiction and loved having sex with as many different women as possible. He could have chosen not to do legitimate acting work in TV and movies and jump into doing pornographic films. He was living in the time of early pornographic movies of the 70's. He must have heard and known about the booming porn industry made famous by such movies as Deep Throat and porn stars like John Holmes, Linda Lovelace and Marilyn Chambers. Pornography was actually quite popular at this time and porno movies were being shown in specialized porno theaters in major cities like New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, San Francisco, etc. He always saw himself as being an actor, even if not a serious actor, and attempted to keep his work as an actor through the 70's after the end of Hogan's Heroes. But he never did manage to find any other successful acting job. He did TV series cameos in the 70's and game shows, cooking shows, etc and his plays/theater work. But porno in the 70's was HUGE and he could have done it and it would have gotten him all the sex he ever wanted with different "actresses" and enough money to retire on! He already had the experience with making private porn movies. The same applies to his friend John Carpenter.Carpenter knew all about working camera and video equipment in a time before anybody even knew what that was and only a few were in on it. A lot of the equipment was coming from the foreign Japanese market. This could have been advantageous for Carpenter. He could have easily become a pornographic movie producer and worked with Bob Crane in the porn industry, either as directors, producers or actors.

Instead, Bob Crane and Carpenter did everything "In secret" or privately, trying to maintain a facade of respectability, especially Crane, who was a TV actor. He didn't want anyone to discover his private porn collection, even though by the time of his death, it was already well known that he loved pornography. He couldn't really hide it from his wife, from his children and from many fellow actors. He should have just quit doing the Hollywood thing and gotten involved in the porn industry of the 70's. It was considered the Golden Age of Porn, the most successful period porn ever had. Top stars were being paid a lot of money, porno-chic was a lifestyle that included parties and movie premieres, treated as if it was "the other Hollywood". Even famous mainstream actors like Jack Nicholson enjoyed watching porn in theaters. Hugh Hefner did as well. Bob Crane would have gotten all the thrills he wanted and the star treatment had he been a porn star similar to John Holmes. In Auto Focus, he even goes as far as to getting his penis enlarged. With a big penis, he would have done very well as a porn star. In the 70's, these porno movies were quite well-made, resembling Hollywood movies with plots, good acting and dialog, and an attempt to be more artistic and serious. Many of the films were similar to the genre of independent films, mainstream thrillers or horror. It was perfect for Bob Crane to do acting work as he would have had scenes of dialog and played different characters.

Bob Crane wanted to have his sex videos and a successful mainstream Hollywood career. Well that's impossible Bob. You can't have it both ways. You should have just become a porn star. Lots of people would have paid to see the Hogans Heroes star try to outshine John Holmes!

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But my point was he had all the makings of a porn star of the 70's. He should have just said " aww screw it I'll be a porn star like John Holmes". And not all male porn stars met the same fate as John Holmes. Holmes and others did drugs and had unprotected sex with both men and women but not every last porn star. There were hetero porn stars that played it safely and moved on to doing porn in the next era of the 80's and 90's (like actors Jon Martin, Jamie Gillis , John Leslie, Mike Horner and for females Marilyn Chambers continued to be successful well into her older age in the 80's and 90's and 2000's. The women doing porn in the 70's were the ones getting paid the most amount of money, far surpassing the males. Linda Lovece made a fortune in porn before she decided to try making another fortune in being an anti-porn crusader claiming that she was not consenting to do porn (which was BS).

Bob Crane really does belong in that era of porn. He just didn't want to go there because he saw himself as being a legitimate actor and probably saw guys like John Homes as being nobodies.

However, if Bob had done real porn and let everyone know who he was and what he was all about - which was a sex addict - it would have been better for him. He would have lived too but instead he went around being secretive and cheating on other men's wives. As a porn star, he would have been an actor in movies, even if they were porn movies (and remember they were really good movies at any rate) and he would have gotten all the sex he could ever want in one lifetime.

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I'm a female and not grossed out by pornography. I like to watch both girls and guys in porn. However, I don't believe what you're saying. Not every last porn actor has to do a gay sex act to get into porn. There are some porn actors who choose to do either only hetero porn, gay porn or both; but in today's porn scene it's up to the performer. I still think that Bob Crane would have been perfect for porn. He was doing porn at any rate - private porn. The videos he made of himself with hundreds of women is home made porn. He didn't sell it and made it for personal private enjoyment but he would have made more money had he been involved in the porn business. There would indeed be an audience of young people in the 70's who would have dug seeing Hogan banging a lot of chicks in porn. He clearly needed a stable job in the 70's right before he died. He couldn't find work so he might as well have done porn which would have been steady work for him and he would have had all the sexual thrills he could want with many different girls in front of a camera. He was already used to having sex in front of a camera. You can say he had already had experience so the porn industry would have welcomed him easily, not to mention his being Hogan! I guess this is more a fantasy of mine that he could have been a porn star but he really really could have been a good one had he gone ahead and done it. He was tailor made for it. And like I said, he wouldn't have been assassinated. He pissed people off with his sneaky behind-closed=doors private home videos and affairs with other women. Had he done porn, he wouldn't be pissing people off since people know what porn stars are all about - sex. Instead he wanted to be a respected Hollywood actor and screw other men's wives which is far worse. It's no wonder they killed him.

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I think given Crane's crossover popularity, he would have commanded top dollar in adult films and with his background in television and in shooting his own films, he likely would have been directing his own adult movies, giving him control over the content so he wouldn't be doing gay porn, there is no way he would start at the bottom of the porn ladder, so to speak. He likely would have been ahead of the curve on the move to VHS video and producing so I think he would have become enormously wealthy had he gone down that path. He never would have worked in TV again (except maybe to appear on the Phil Donahue show, which would have been the only show of the era that would have been edgy enough that Crane could have appeared on as a guest), but I think he would have still been a big star, just in a different genre. The drawback is that he probably would have died of AIDS in the 80's.

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Bob Crane made good money (relative to the era) when Hogan's Heroes was on the air, but I think all TV stars from that era were screwed in syndication money, and of course VHS and DVD were still decades away. But relatively speaking, Crane made nothing compared to what sitcom stars of the 90's and later made; he did not make enough money from Hogan's Heroes to retire on, even with the alimony payments.

I seem to think that Tim Allen was making two million an episode for the final season of Home Improvement, and each of the castmembers of Friends were making a million an episode for much of the series. Kelsey Grammer got filthy rich making Frasier. Seinfeld and Bill Cosby made a couple hundred million dollars each syndicating their shows. The major sitcom stars of the past 20 or so years made enough to retire on, but before the mid 80's, not so much.

The only TV stars pre-1980 who got rich were people who produced their own shows and other shows, people like Lucille Ball and Jackie Gleason, but you could count them on one hand. Nowadays, if you star on a TV show that is successful enough to get to syndication (generally about 100 episodes or four seasons), between syndication revenues and money coming in from DVD sales, you'll live comfortably if you invest your money well.

Gary Coleman is a good case in point; he came along at the point when TV stars started getting a bigger chunk of the pie (this came about thanks to the actors strikes of the early 80's) and starred on a sitcom that ran for close to ten seasons. He should have made enough money to live comfortably on, but his parents squandered and mis-managed his money and he was pretty much flat broke once his show went off the air.

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Well that raises many questions. What happened to the sex videos ? Videos, no matter how much time passes, don't just disappear. They are out there somewhere. I have VHS that go back to both the 80's and 90's, so over 20 years. VHS can be well preserved as VCR. Just because we're no longer in that era doesn't mean that those things don't work anymore. They work great. And the tapes don't get ruined. Tapes get confiscated or stolen. That's what happened to Crane's porn. Someone out there has hold of some and has kept them for years.

The truth remains that Crane performed in a particular type of porn (known as amateur home made porn for private use)....and certainly had as much sex on camera as many professional porn stars.... he didn't do professional porn for sale and distribution but he was doing porn at any rate.. By technicality and definition, a pornographic actor is any man or woman who has sex in a video in front of a camera. He . Well Crane had sex in a lot of videos.

And yes, he was stupid and could have made a lot of money had he taken this early VHS technology he had with Carpenter and started a VHS porn business while it was still the late 70's. The era of VHS was really more in the late 80's so what Crane and Carpenter were doing was 10 years ahead of their time in the 70's. How stupid is that they didn't make a profit off it.

You can argue that they enjoyed more sex than porn stars who do it for money, but that's the one thing that he didn't have at the end of his life. Crane wanted to have money. Well he would have had money had he done porn.

To me he still counts a pornographic actor. It's just that he never got a big break is all.

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You're applying today's morality to the 60s and 70s which is why your "why didn't Crane just do porn" suggestion/musing is laughable.

Whether you personally like porn or not I irrelevant. Back then, being in porn wasn't something acceptable and wholesome people did. There was no "bouncing back" from something like that. Now days, someone can have a sex tape leak and the sign a contract with a mainstream company to advertise something like hamburgers. That did not happen in Crane's era.

Porn was considered the lowest of the low in entertainment and performers certainly weren't pulling down the big bucks that they can make today. Plus, the lifestyle wasn't exactly conductive to a long and happy life. Most of the big stars of that era died of AIDS, overdoses, etc. There aren't a slew of old time porn stars who are now chilling in their mansions in Malibu. I won't say all met tragic or pathetic ends but the ones who got out moved on to careers in something else.

It's also obvious that Crane wanted to be a legit actor and just saw the sexual aspect of his life as a hobby. Just because you like doing something doesn't mean you want to make your living that way.

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Bob had a public image to maintain. He relished being known as Col. Hogan, and wanted to continue to work as a legitimate actor, one who was well-liked. It meant a lot for him to have people like him. Had he entered the porn industry, all of that would have been shattered.

The whole sex thing was a hobby to him anyway, something he did for kicks. He did not want to make a living out of it.

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I think I can answer that. It's alot more easier to walk into a bar and feel safer picking up the girl who doesn't go to bars daily for safe sex and keep it between the two of you, than it is to sleep with a porn actress who has daily sex and let the whole world know about your personal desires.

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I guess he cared about what people thought of him ... Most men live a double life .. they act one way around the family and another way around others .. His other way caught up with him .

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I'd like a chance t' shoot at an educated man once in my life .

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Hey, FloatingOpera7, this is one hell of a good post.

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He thought he could.

Had he 'gave up and went into Porn.' he'd be admitting it was an addiction and not just a hobby...

not to mention maybe he felt he wasn't 'equipped' to go pro

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