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Is this film accurate? Here's a better question--Who cares?1?!


This film remains a harrowing and powerful peice of filmmaking, who cares if it is fiction or non-fiction?

"I really do have love to give. I just dont know where to put it."

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It has just been a fasicating case, especially for us Arizonans. The movie seemed close to Crane's life.

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its been torn to pieces by the second family

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Scott Crane runs a website where he lambastes Paul Schrader, going ballistic over "factual innacuracies" that are, in the context of both the film and real life, quibbles.

For instance:

The film has Crane meeting Carpenter during the run of Hogan's Heroes, when in reality, they did not meet until after the show ended it's run.

Carpenter did not introduce Crane to videotape. Bob had been a gearhead his entire life, and had been fiddling with home video for a while before they met. What is known is that they did videotape their escapades, oftentimes without the consent of the other participants.

According to Scott, the autopsy on Bob Crane reveals no "penile extention" procedure was ever performed, and that his father's endowment was natural. His opponents point that the autopsy report's focus is on the cause of death, and that no mention of Bob's member is made one way or another.


Scott also takes great pleasure in comparing Auto Focus' box office gross and reviews to other films and the money/press they made in a comparable amount of time, in an attempt to illustrate what a bomb Schrader's film was.

The fact is, while the film was a slow starter at the box office, it was released to relatively small number of screens, and had a relatively high per-screen gross during its limited release. The film's critical reception was enthusiastic across the board, which led to the film becoming a great success on DVD, where it recouped the remainder of its cost and turned a nice profit.

It should also be noted that Scott Crane's noise about "innacuracies" in the film is drowned out by the fact that he has frequently posted his dad's homade porn on the site, and has put together a book containing still photos and video captures of his father's "work", for which he is trying to find a publisher.



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scott is a loser, bob was not a loser. 42

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Yeah, so that's really the gist of Scott Crane's beefs with the film???

With all the noise and malarky I'd been hearding about how son, Scott, was lambasting this movie, I'd figured that he had been claiming that his dad was a buddist monk to the contrary or something.

Most likely he's soap-boxing simply to drive interest for this upcoming book(good luck, dude)(actually, I'd probably give it a look if it ever exists).

Anyway, I'd be disappointed to learn that this well-done film was any less regarded because of that small stuff.

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He was a child when his dad was murdered, as was I back then. How would he know from what his mother told him. Bob's first son has no problem with the film and even appeared in it and was an advisor. Bob Jr should tell his half brother to shut the hell up.

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The film has Crane meeting Carpenter during the run of Hogan's Heroes, when in reality, they did not meet until after the show ended it's run.


Carpenter did not introduce Crane to videotape. Bob had been a gearhead his entire life, and had been fiddling with home video for a while before they met. What is known is that they did videotape their escapades, oftentimes without the consent of the other participants.



The problem is that Scotty claims these things are untrue and innacurate yet provides no evidence for it, he just says it isn't true and expects you to believe it.

And even if it isn't true about them knowing each other as the show was still filming (I think it is true cause Richard Dawson introduced Carpenter to Crane, Dawson and Crane did not keep in touch after the show finished, since they didn't like each other, so it seems more than likely that he introduced them to each other as the show was still filming, and this is what he himself has said) and that he was not the the one who introduced him to video, (he is said to have taught him how to use the new equipment and technology and supplied him with it, as soon as it became available). The fact is it doesn't make any difference to the film since the film is not depending on these facts for the story to work.

I imagine the penial implant thing is made up though, since I don't think it was surgically possible at the time. It was also a needless and pointless thing to add into the film, it didn't bring anything to the story and had no point in being there.

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You sound like the type that sees an insect flying as a harrowing and powerful piece.

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