The rape scene (again)


It bored me like hell. Simple as that.

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Really? I found it absolutely traumatising. Do you say it's boring because of the run-time?

Very good movie anyway, very hard to watch.




"He's not the Messiah. He's a very naughty boy!"

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I have seen that scene so I will not be watching this movie. This scene affects me like Clockwork Orange affects me. Like you just want to jump into the movie and save her and kick that guy right in the head. Repeatedly.

Gotta wonder about the dude in the backgorund during the rape scene. The guy who turns around and walks away.

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That was almost as disturbing as what was going on in the foreground.

"Passion is just insanity in a cashmere sweater!"

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The guy turning around made me decide I should carry a gun around. Because I thought, "if that was me, would I have done differently? Would I have helped her or be too scared to come close?" and I came to the conclusion that having a gun, I'd me more than happy to run up there and blow his brains up.

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Gotta wonder about the dude in the background during the rape scene. The guy who turns around and walks away.


He may not have even thought it was a rape. The area was infested with hookers and I can only imagine what may go on in hidden-away areas in a neighborhood like that.

30 years ago I lived in a downtown area of my small city of 48,000 that had a seedy area near my apartment and I saw several cases of hooker/client going on in pretty open areas. So imagine what may occur in Paris.

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Gotta wonder about the dude in the background during the rape scene. The guy who turns around and walks away.
In a sense, I think this brief appearance shows an individual making a different choice than Alex did...one which sadly got her in trouble.

She stops in shock when she sees the prostitute get struck, and you wonder if she's also hesitating because she may intercede. If she had kept going, she may have got away.

The man we see in the background turns around and leaves a dangerous situation. Of course you want him to stop what's happening, and we all hope we'd be the kind of person who would help another in an emergency...but his leaving may have saved his life.

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How old are you? I'm guessing you're around 12-14 and you're trying to look tough or like a badass. If this scene didn't affect you, I have lost all hope in the young generation

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You almost wrote "sensual" didn't you? Good catch about the violent bits. You're good.

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Rape can be very sexy? Whether it's in movies or in real life, it's the least sexy thing I could possibly imagine. I wonder what goes on in people's heads sometimes I really do. My faith in humanity is diminishing faster every single day!

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Reaons like this is exactly why I can't believe that GOD was manmade.

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In a sense, I think this brief appearance shows an individual making a different choice than Alex did...one which sadly got her in trouble.

She stops in shock when she sees the prostitute get struck, and you wonder if she's also hesitating because she may intercede. If she had kept going, she may have got away.

The man we see in the background turns around and leaves a dangerous situation. Of course you want him to stop what's happening, and we all hope we'd be the kind of person who would help another in an emergency...but his leaving may have saved his life.


First, for all we know, maybe the guy went to get help, & thats how come she was found. Becaue I dont think it was that girl that she saved.

For the irony, I gotta say I like your quote. I didnt think of it that way. But yeah, she saw an attack, interfered, gets the attack, & its probably multiplied, but SHE doesnt get anything for it. TBH, I'd have had her SEE the guy as he just walks away, & leaves her to get another 5 minutes of the anal rape. Also, I'd have rathered the guy had started the rape, & have the guy walk in later. Giving him, again, a slight out, he could have thought it was just a prostitute transaction. The guys outside the club after the attack thought she was a whore. But the scene would have had even more impact had he walked out during her rape, because the sounds she was making, there was NO question what was happening.

I'd also have had the movie started showing she survived unharmed, with a kid, but I'd have removed the pregnancy part from later, so after the rape, you question if the father was her BF or her rapist.

But yeah, its "poetic UN"justice for Alex. No good deed goes unpunished. Had she minded her business, she'd have been fine, plus he might not have been as mad, so he might not have beat the other girl after. & I think Alex died, because he says to her, "I'm done with you", & called her dead meat. She was a plot device, & was no longer needed.

But I had a similar thought recently when I found out about the controversial japanese Hentai game Rape-Lay. Had Aoi Kiryu not interfered & gotten the train molester arrested for molesting another random girl on the train, then her family, she, her 11-year old younger sister, & their mother wouldnt have been harmed. The police werent looking for the guy, otherwise he would have been caught, the other girl would have just been molested on the train, there seemed to be no reports of missing girls or rapes, but instead the Kiryu family is destroyed, the youngest daughter Manako lures their mother Yuuko into a trap, & then Aoi allows herself to be raped thinking it'll free their mother & prevent her being harmed, not knowing Yuuko had already been raped. After when he brings all three back together & tells them he's keeping them forever as sex-slaves, Yuuko offers herself to him as a sex-slave if he lets the daughters go, & they have to watch as she gives him oral sex to earn their freedom/safety, only for him to reneg. They've been raped by him, will now continue to be, he has them gang-raped by up to 6guys, he has them have lesbian sex with each other, he had been taking picutres & videos of each rape to show the next girl he targeted, & is probly spreading them on the internet, making money off their porn. No one is looking for them, he never went to their house/school/work, the police clearly were never investigating any missing/raped girls, some of the places where the player can have the girls raped are in public, & even if someone recognized them off porn pics/vids online, he probly shoots them so they look like willing porn-stars since the father is dead, & not raped sex-slaves. He even restrains them with the same handcuffs he was arrested with while he rapes them the first time.

All because one person did NOT mind their own business & left a situation alone, instead it escalates, & blows up in her face, litterally, AND also destroys her family too. When the original victim probably wouldnt have been harmed as much. The girl on the train would have just been groped & molested, not raped or abducted, & while the person alex helped might have been raped, might not have been beaten to death. & their family would have been untouched. Manaka & Yuuko are continously raped, they can even get pregnant, & alex's BF wouldnt be in jail for murder, of the WRONG guy.

Wow.

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