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The final point of the movie


I see that a lot of people feel that the movie is very bleak. Of course, the line 'time destroys everything' supports that thought. And the guy in the beginning saying 'there's no bad deeds, just deeds'.

But personally I feel that the message of the movie is a positive one. To make you want to live life to its fullest, because anything can happen, and after all, your time is limited.
I'm curious as to what other people think the movie tried to convey

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Put simply, certain events can produce irreversible effects.

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Unfortunately, I'm not sure you can pull a positive message (or a negative message) from this film...it is quite neutral. I think the film was saying you can't really make anything out of life; that it is completely out of control and there is no free will. The director leaves hints and clues throughout the entire film, as you mentioned ,the "there's no bad deeds, just deeds" line is one of them but there is also the book that Alex was reading stating that the past, present, and future are fixed and exist all at once. Then there is the concept of the newborn child and the poster of the fetus from 2001 which corroborates the idea of past, present, and future all existing at once. The fact that the wrong guy was killed and Tenia got away with it when he was standing just inches away from Marcus (even offering him a smoke) kind of shows where the director was going with all this...there is no justice in this world. Sometimes good things happen to bad people and unfortunately, sometimes bad things happen to good people. We as humans try to make sense of this by rejecting this notion, we are vindictive and indignant when we are wronged (Marcus seeking revenge) but the fact of the matter is, the universe doesn't operate this way (wrong guy killed, Tenia getting away). There is no good or bad, there is just "isness". Whatever happened in the past, is happening now, and is going to happen was meant to be that way. Its not good or bad, it just is.

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Very nicely put, even though I believe free will can have an influence on our fate.

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Thank you for your reply man, it helped me understanding the point of the movie.

there is no justice in this world. Sometimes good things happen to bad people and unfortunately, sometimes bad things happen to good people. We as humans try to make sense of this by rejecting this notion, we are vindictive and indignant when we are wronged (Marcus seeking revenge) but the fact of the matter is, the universe doesn't operate this way


After all I was kinda going through it in my head and trying to make sense of it, if it mattered at all if she was pregnant or not. I kept asking myself what was truly irreversible?

Even though I think there is evil, good or bad, your explanation helped me to understand all that I was thinking about.

In the end I was not even worried about Tenia, I completely forgot about him. To be honest, I was so deeply worried and dragged to Alex(her baby), Marcus and Pierre. How horrible was their fate? She might lose the baby or he might never get to see his child. They might never be able to love each other again.

I was sad for Pierre, he had nothing to do with the wrong place, wrong hour and wrong people he found himself. Dragged into this hellish chain of events just because he wanted to see Alex once again. This is the kind of bad decision we ourselves sometimes do and can't predict how it'll end. He had to kill a man just for the sake of Alex and Marcus.

This movie happened me understanding a lot that is going through my life right now. In no way I regard it as a violent movie. People would say you to stay away from it. I'm thankful that we have directors as brave as Noé to pull movies as visceral as this one.

“Gentlemen, You Can’t Fight In Here! This is The War Room!”: Dr. Strangelove

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In two words? *beep* sucks.

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When a movie's thesis is "time destroys everything" it's basically admitting to being a waste of said time.

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Not Monica Bellucci. Her fictional character.

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yes, thank you for correcting that. now go kill yourself.

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Only if you fictionally rape me first, my fictional character will then fictionally kill himself. )

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Violence begets violence.

Just get me home, I'll do the rest.

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Sure sure sure.

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