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Harry is shizophrenic


He sees his wife going into that house on the other side of the street. She was betraying him. Harry killed her and this is what made him 'lock' away the 'murderer' person in himself. But he can't life without knowing who killed his wife and is going to find the murderer. At the end he fights himself.

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Actually the protagonist's name in Silent Hill 2 is James not Harry. He is the protagonist in Silent Hill 1

you ain't leadin' but two things right now: Jack and sh*t... and Jack just left town.

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I think agree. I noticed especially one shot where "the killer" is walking into a room, up to his wife, going from all blurred - looking a lot like Harry - to sharper where we see the killer and his surroundings.
When I saw that I figured it was just some way of letting us know there was a connection between the two, being the murder, but there could be more to it, I see.

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There's only one flaw to that: Schizophrenia and Mulitple Personality Disorder aren't interchangable. Schizophrenics can suffer from MPD, but they aren't necessarily one in the other.

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LOL...You guys got this movie completely wrong. Harry is absolutely normal. In the scene at the hospital when Harry told cops that he killed his wife's murderer at the hotel and cops said that they didn't find anything - they LIED, they just covered up the whole thing for obvious reasons.

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It might be possible to say that Harry is schizophrenic but I concluded that there was more to the story than met the eye. He did kill the man who killed his wife but the scene where he exits the lift - for me - was about his complete loss of control. The red mist descended at that point, so off he went to kill. This was a story of revenge and the madness it brings about in his character.

The Police then covered it up in order to prevent it going any further. An outwardly model cop died amid sordid circumstances. Harry did what he set out to do. The exact relationship vetween Harry's wife and the cop, the reasons why he stayed over the road...that's slightly ambiguous but all tentatively point to an affair. The shooting of his wife wasn't meant to happen and it's difficult to grasp why it did happen.

This is a film about mood, tone and atmosphere. It has these things in abundance not only due to the way it was shot, performed, edited and scored but also because certain pieces of information were left hanging up in the air, left for us to dwell upon. As I said earlier, I don't think the schizophrenia argument is watertight but there's room for it.

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Hi

I agree being shizo but not the rest.


His wife was murder, why? we don't know, Who? we don't know, Wrong place at the wrong time? we don't know.

But Harry start a sick hobbie to find out.

He remembers her near the house so he goes there and find out the pic, is it real? Could it be a similar woman with a kid that could be his?

The cops fuelled his mind about a possible and misterious past.

His mind create everything else: the place- a hotel where they went before, The man- made by all pictures he took at the mall, the plot about the Killer and past about his wife.

He gets free when he release his anger and, after all, wants to kill.

That's the way I see it. What do you think??


JPM

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Are you lot tripping or something???!!!

He is not a schizo at all. Like my man c00l has already told you the police lied to cover up the fact that they have some underground opertaion to kill corrupt cop's. This is why the film footage dissapears and Harry is realeased.

The story develop's through Harry and the film is shot in such a way that you sometimes do not always trust him because of his state of mind. This all adds to the suspense.

Just because not all the answers to every question you thought of during the movie is answered does'nt mean he has schizophrenia. Sometimes thing's in movies go unanswered, deal with it and leave it at that!

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I came to imdb as I had some questions and theories about this movie that I couldn't quite figure out. But I'm amazed by some of the stuff I've read here. While I was writing my questions out here, I seem to have answered them all on my own , so I'll just give you my take on the movie now
******it will spoil the movie*******

Firstly I don't think Harry was shizo, I do believe his wife's murderer was real. Such lengths are gone to just to explain the murderers apparent i.e. rid the force of dirty cops, he being an honoured cop. Also we’re given an insight into the pain and suffering him and his wife are going through. Why would all this be done if he is simply in Harry's head?, or if he was Harry?.

T he thing that caused me confusion is this; why was there a photo of the cops wife in the house opposite Harry’s house. This provides the only link to the murderer, and a weak link at that. This can only make us believe that Harry's or his wife were being monitored by the cop. If this is true then the murder of Harry’s wife was not an accident. The interview with the police at the beginning of the movie already suggested this, and suggested that Harry’s wife had a unknown past. It has been suggested on imdb that she was having an affair with the cop, perhaps. It is strange that Harry has been to the cops home town before, so some kind of link is hinted at.

This photo proves to be the key to Harry solving the case. His obsessive investigating of this photo led him to the killer. Why does he find the photo?. He only does this after the cops tell him they have a photo of the killer and that it's possible she knew the killer and that the killing had a motive. Harry allows himself to think his wife was murdered for a reason and then remembers the house opposite is always empty. His obsessive, constantly questioning mind leads him to the answer.

I really enjoyed this movie. It was a joy to watch as the cinematography was so beautiful and it was paced so nicely. However it did have some problems and the plot development may be one. On one hand you don't want a movie to give everything away, but on the other hand perhaps it was made over confusing. Tough balance to get right, the results of which are seen here in some theories on the movie.

However as a stylish, compelling story that studies obsessive behaviour, revenge, murder and grief, it works quite well. Also the use of digital sequences and overall soundtrack was fresh and impressive.

Some questions obviously remain, but this is necessary and are not at the core of the movie.
Well that’s my take anyway……..

shaun.



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I don't have all the answers, but I think it's possible that the "killer" cop and Harry are the same person. Harry says to the tall cop that he's in room 503. He could have said this to mislead him, but what's the point, as he gives him his real ID ? I think when he goes in room 503, he meets himself. Another reason why I think there's a mental trip involved is the title of the movie in France (where I live) : it's "The Inside Job".

Maybe there's something of the life of his dreams in the killer cop's life and that's why there's so much about it in the movie. He dreams of his life with his son, with a better job (but still "close" to the one he really has got), etc. When his other self, the investigating one, tries to solve his wife's death mystery and wants to disturb the dream, the killer cop reacts and tries to prevent him from doing so, but it's all in Harry's mind. It's a fight between his two personalities.

I don't know if he killed his wife, I'm still thinking about this but I can't find clues.

And I can't make myself believe that the cops conspiracy is real, because they just couldn't hide the death of one of them : he's got a wife, a child, he seems to be well known among the people of the town, and so on.

Just a few ideas, and I'm interested in any comment / reaction.

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I watched this film last night, and I have to agree with the last post.

As soon as the film ended, (and I realised that the last shots of the mall were not going to shed any further light) my first conclusion was that Harry was both Harry and the killer cop.

Why does he repeat the mantra, "I am not a murderer" over the course of the film? Why is room 503, the mirror of 305? Why the house opposite the road - again, a form of mirror? Why are the pictures of killer cop family showing them on holiday in the same place that Harry and his wife stayed? Why, when he stumbles into the lift after being shot, is there no sign of blood, but then there is when he clutches his sides. Why do we not see the final showdown, and why so many "premonitions" (these are surely flashes of memory, or an unstable mind creating a truth to cover the fact that he killed his own wife.)

He is both of them. If he is not, then this is a cheap film that deliberately leads you with some subtle (and some not so subtle) leads.

It could be just as plausible that he belonged to this underground police force and tragically killed his own wife while fearing for his life as part of his covert job. He wiped the memory of this, the police covered it up, and EVEN deliberately mislead him on his quest to find a killer to protect themselves (the police that ask him questions about being in a cult - how unrealistic are they as police???? And that picture of the killer that they have supposedly found- could be literally any man!). He ends up in a showdown with himself - I mean, come on, the initial meeting, the strange cop with his head always down, voice low, full of such remorse that he lets the husband of the woman he murdered hold his head in his hands??? Unlikely - he his holding himself up to scrutiny at this point.

And finally, the look of the cop at the end, the guy who now understands what has happened to this poor man, who in a horrible twist of fate killed his own wife, and then shot himself, convinced he had murdered the killer.

It is the most likely and logical conclusion to this film - I think the director is misleading us when he says even he doesn't know the answer - he just wants to fuel the hype.

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Perhaps the story is told from Peter the corrupt cop killing policeman's perspective who is racked with guilt (seen when he broke down during the meeting with the two other fellas) Maybe Harry and everything you see surrounding him is in Peter's mind as he struggles to come to terms with killing an innocent pregnant woman. He says a tearful sorry as he shoots Henry (in his mind) He could also have the Fear (X in the title) of coming face to face with her husband. Maybe when Henry throws away the photos in the desert it's Peter's way of coping with and releasing some of the guilt. Maybe he also had an affair and had personal issue's with that and a fear of his wife finding out.

...or Henry was just a nut!

It's 2am and I've just had the best part of a bottle of Jack D so perhaps i'm talking out my ass ...Hic!!!

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Maybe...

Harry and the cop are the same person.

Harry's wife was randomly killed. It just happened.

Harry searches for the reason why she was killed but never finds the answer.

Harry 'kills' the 'cop' at the end, because the cop (who is actually just an aspect of himself) represents a life he can no longer hope to have. When he 'kills' the 'cop,' he frees himself from his dreams that he had of his life with his wife and child.

Or...

Harry and the cop are the same person.

Harry kills his wife and her lover. He then blocks this act from himself, and repeats to himself that he is no murderer.

Harry searches for the reason why she was killed, and this search leads him to a corrupt cop (who is only an aspect of himself).

Harry kills the cop at the end, because the cop represents a life he can no longer hope to have. When he kills the cop, he frees himself from his dreams that he had of his life with his wife and child.

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Not necessarily. He may have been Schitzo, but then how did the pictures of Remar's family get next door? Makes no sense. The house was definitely set up as a regular stakeout house.

Remar was probably on a stakeout to kill this "dirty" cop. He ends up having an affair with Harry's wife (easy situation for both). They are hooking up all the time. She finds out Remar is going to kill this cop for some unscrupulous people posing as good guys.

She may have known Remar for years, who knows.

She tries to stop Remar from killing anyone, and actually gets killed by mistake. Remar kills his mistress and feels terrible about it.

Harry, wrongly, thinks his wife is coming to see him at the mall that night. Maybe the baby is Remar's. Again, left up to the imagination.

That's one reason why you'd see the image of Harry's wife going next door. Why you'd see the jealousy and contempt in Remar's wife. Why this would finally start coming to Harry.

Or Harry's wife's image is leading him to the house next door. Leading him to Remar. Like a ghost. Just a coincidence that Harry's wife and Remar were in the same dark mall garage? Hard to swallow.

With the Police questioning at the beginning, the Remar scenes with his wife and with the commissioner guy, with the Mystery person in the hospital that gives the final okay to let Harry live, the gun shot in his gut. It seems like a cover up all the way. Harry completed his mission and it is time to move on and let go.

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