hospital scene


During the hospital scene, the cops keep looking at someone at the entrance of the room. We never see this person. Any ideas of who it could be ? Peter... Peter's wife... ? Who knows, maybe even Harry's wife...

Otherwise, I think that it's all a cover up. The cops don't want their undercover operation to be revealed. That was my first impression, actually my second. When leaving the cinema, I was a bit confused, but on the trip back home, the cover up is what came to mind.

During the movie, though, the schizo option was going through my mind. I was hoping for another ending, the schizo seems so easy. So many movies end this way.

Well there.

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There WAS someone else they were looking at, as this thread starter stated. The big, balding cop was behind the guy talking to the mystery person.

This person could have been the Commisioner guy, or even, yes, Harry's Wife.
It could have been Remars wife saying that she didn't want any charges pressed.

Who knows, we sure don't. That's not for us to know anyway. Just like Harry knows that it is a cover up. It's over his head and he needs to let it go at this point. We are in Harry's boat.

He got his revenge. He killed the man who killed his pregnant wife.

If she was a terrorist, or a cop and if this goes all the way up to the White House, or ends in this mystery town, Harry's emotional and physical part in this play is finished.

He cries in the end, because he knows that his part is over, he can finally cry for his lose and he will have to move on now.

Besides becoming a Keifer Sutherland "24" uber-hero, and he knows that that would be ridiculous and wouldn't fix what happened to him, it's time for him to let it go.

Great Movie. My only question isn't with the Hospital Scene, it's with the house across the street. I'd like to know if Remar set up camp there before Harry's wife's death or after. Because if it was before than that would be too much of a coincidence that Remar and Harry's wife were in the same place at the same time at that fateful moment in the mall. Then I would definitely believe that the Wife wasn't an innocent bystander and there was a reason why she was killed.

We know from Remar's sitdown with the bigwig commissioner guy and assistant that he didn't mean to kill Harry's wife. That's the part that raises questions for me.


If it was after the killings then it is simply Remar setting up a stakeout to keep tabs on Harry.

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BTW, that's if you take it as a cover up.

It can also of course be that he is acting Schitzo and created this cover up plot in his head.

Really Remar may have been on stakeout for awhile. He may have been having an affair with Harry's wife also.

She goes to the mall, not to confront Harry, but to stop Remar from commiting murder (which she learned from being intimate with him and staying with him all day when Harry was busting his ass at the mall).

She gets killed getting caught in the crossfire. Remar kills his mistress and the "dirty" cop. Any cop traveling outside jurisdiction to kill another cop is obviously the dirty one though. So 2 strikes against Remar.

This makes a lot of sense, but would still incline a cover up, because the cops say there was no body to Harry in the end.

That's why either way there is definitely a cover up, unless you say Harry completely made up Remar, as the cops in say in the end, but I don't think that works.

He got shot in the gut. He found those pictures in the house next door that led him there. He told the cops he killed Remar after he got shot. If he was Remar too, than he wouldn't have found those negatives next door.

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I really think the house across the street was set up for the conspiracy killers to watch Harry after the murder of his wife to see if he does anything stupid to blow their cover.

Once they realize the case is cold, and no longer in the police's interest, they leave. Peter was obviously there since the negatives were his.

I just don't buy the schitzophrenia theory. I think Turturro's character is forthright in portraying a man in spiritual agony over the death of his wife, and needing to find the answers.

** John Kotynek

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I think Turturro's character is forthright in portraying a man in spiritual agony over the death of his wife, and needing to find the answers.

absolutely. I thought the director was going for the idea that 'often you DON'T get an answer, even if it's one you feel you need to move on.' How many of us after a breakup spend time obsessing over trying to understand what happened? Personally I feel the entire hotel/3rd act is imaginary. They take him back to his car which is now suddenly parked in the middle of nowhere instead of the red hotel, and he lets go of the images/evidence because, at least for the moment, he realizes he won't get his answers and there's nothing he can do about it.

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