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This Movie's Soundtrack


This movie has like the best soundtrack ever in a movie ever. I heard the movie's bad, but is it worth it to see it just to hear the background songs? I actually do have the patience to do something like that for music I love. I sat through the whole Smurfs' Movie just to here "Ready to Go" by Panic at the Disco at the end, and I will definitely sit through this movie just to hear Fuel and Evanescence and such.

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Like I totally like agree with like you...like.

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It's good but it's not the best ever.

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Really? In your opinion, what is the best soundtrack ever then?


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Tarantino movies have amazing soundtracks.

But I am always fond of movies featuring some great tracks, and this has more than a few.

"Pacific Rim: The Thinking Man's Transformers"

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I love Quentin Tarantino movies, and I always thought the soundtracks were pretty quirky and fun. I recently got the "Can't Hardly Wait" soundtrack, and I am in love with that, but otherwise I only have soundtracks from movie-musicals and movies with many original songs, like "Scott Pilgrim vs. the World."


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Why did you ask if it was worth it to watch the movie just to HEAR the soundtrack if in the last line you say you will definitely watch it just for the music? I've only seen the Director's Cut, and it was pretty good even if you don't like the soundtrack, which is not the best ever in a movie ever... ever. For example, Mean Streets and GoodFellas have a better soundtrack.

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Well, to answer your first question, it's kind of like that thing where you like a song a lot, but hearing it in a fun context makes it even more special. Like, you can listen to a song all day on your Ipod if you want, but it's really special when you hear it on the radio or in a movie. It's just a different way to listen and enjoy the song, I guess.


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I personally thought the soundtrack really aged the movie. All the songs are contemporary and don't really hold the test of time.

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Well said, and anyone that will sit through a Smurfs just to hear Panic At The Disco isn't exactly the sort who impresses me wit their good taste, in the first place.

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Hey now, I like a very wide variety of music, so please don't be so quick to judge me based off of one band, k? Also, I sat through it to see Neil Patrick Harris as well.

Space may be the final frontier but it's made in a Hollywood basement

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I rest my case.

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Had some great songs on it.

"Won't Back Down" - Fuel
"The Man Without Fear" - Drowning Pool (ft. Rob Zombie)
"Bring Me to Life" - Evanescence (ft. Paul McCoy)

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http://www.avclub.com/article/daredevil-kicked-wrongheaded-trend-comic-book-movi-222357

Comic books and cinema diverge in plenty of ways, but the ability to use music in the latter may be the most immediate aesthetic difference between the two mediums. Films and comics can often reproduce each other’s visual touchstones; some comics, especially action-oriented ones, could serve as storyboards for their cinematic adaptations, and even other aspects of sound, like dialogue, narration, and effects, can be approximated on the page or easily translated into a movie frame. But comics do not, as a rule, include much musical accompaniment. While some comics have explored specific musical subcultures, the best the rest can do is sneak in some song lyrics emanating from a drawing of headphones or a radio, or possibly offer playlist suggestions to accompany the reading experience.

Adapting comics to the screen, then, presents the opportunity to add sensory dimension to beloved characters, especially superheroes. Think of the grandeur of the John Williams theme for the 1978 Superman, or the Danny Elfman music from the Tim Burton Batman pictures. Those two composers come to mind because their superhero scores remain some of the most recognizable pieces of comics-related music (outside of the litany of pop songs written about or alluding to Superman), even after the number and overall quality of comics movies has spiked in the 15 years since the first X-Men movie. Though there has been some notable and recognizable superhero music, like the X-Men themes by Michael Kamen and John Ottman, and Hans Zimmer’s iconic work for the Dark Knight trilogy, a lot of it bleeds together due to sheer volume, even when the individual work is strong—just as sometimes happens with the movies themselves, now that Marvel Studios produces ultra-successful and mostly good variations on their formula every year.

But before Marvel emerged as its own production force, there was a rush of comics films inspired by the success of X-Men and especially the 2002 Spider-Man, and with them came a rush of superhero soundtracks as tie-in material. Superheroes had received the pop treatment before: Prince contributed ill-fitting songs to Batman, and after Siouxsie And The Banshees provided the sole pop song for Batman Returns, the Joel Schumacher films went for the full-on marketing assault, spawning several hit singles as well as multiple songs named after Batman mythology written with tenuous-at-best understanding of said mythology. (See R. Kelly’s “Gotham City” from the Batman & Robin soundtrack, quickly accruing three strikes in its description of Gotham as “a city of justice, “a city of love,” and “a city of peace”). It was really Spider-Man, though, that restarted the comics-movie-soundtrack juggernaut. The Spider-Man album continued with the Schumacher-Batman nomenclature of “music from and inspired by,” an unwieldy asterisk affixed to albums that gives permission for them to contain a mix of end-credits jams, score bits, incidental pop songs, and whatever else the unholy alliance of movie studio and record label could jam together to reflect the hip music of the day.

These alliances provide a fascinating window into what executives in the entertainment industry think mainstream comic-book heroes should sound like, a thought process that results in the dude from Nickelback speaking for teenage outcast Peter Parker on “Hero,” the hit credits song from Spider-Man. Nickelbacker Chad Kroeger’s collaborator on “Hero” was Josey Scott, lead singer of the band Saliva, and this partnership was like a comics crossover that eventually launched an apocalyptic event series with ramifications across a universe—one that contains not superpowered heroes and mutants but practitioners of early-’00s bro-ternative rock. As studios hastily exercised their rights to various comic-book properties, often from character goldmine Marvel, they struggled with how to present these characters in the broader pop-cultural landscape, away from the insular world of comic-book shops.

The film version of Daredevil would have been shot before Spider-Man came out, but it certainly wasn’t finished when Sam Raimi’s film broke box-office records in the summer of 2002, and it seems entirely possible that its soundtrack counts as the first major spawn of Kroeger and Scott’s “Hero.” Outfitted with the more easily digestible (and non-committal) moniker of Daredevil: The Album, this collection of vaguely mookish, semi-aggro mainstream rock music, assembled in a post-Napster scramble, now looks like a dastardly plot to kill rock ’n’ roll, comic books, and movies in one fell swoop. It was released on Wind-Up Records, whose biggest act, Creed, had already begun its descent from massive popularity by 2003. But plenty more Eddie Vedder-like voiced bros circled around the Wind-Up offices, ready to jump into the Marvel Universe and become the next Guy From Nickelback (though that band hailed from the Roadrunner label).

Daredevil: The Album doesn’t exclusively feature Wind-Up artists (the company must have lost some kind of bidding war with Island for custody of Saliva), but it does feature a murderers’ row of reasons that a lot of people stopped listening to rock radio around 2003: Fuel, The Calling, Nickelback, Hoobastank, and Drowning Pool all contribute cuts. Drowning Pool, by 2003 missing their original singer (he died the previous year), enlists Rob Zombie to help with “The Man Without Fear,” the token song that’s explicitly about the superhero who stars in the movie. Sample lyrics: “COME ON, COME ON, COME ON, COME ON! DAREDEVIL!” If it sounds like a particularly cranked attempt to get people excited to run out to the mall and see a superhero movie, that’s the riled-up tone of this sort of rock, pitched somewhere between the epic self-pity of emo and the more overt aggression of nu-metal and rap-rock. Many of the songs on Daredevil: The Album sound like a calculated attempt to start a vengeful mosh pit, without the passionate release of a band like Nirvana or even Pearl Jam.

One of the best things that can be said about Daredevil, the Mark Steven Johnson film that the soundtrack accompanies and that Drowning Pool cheers on, is that it only includes some of these songs. In fact, the movie opens with a full-on orchestral score, eventually slipping in strains of hard rock as it stutters along, attempting to tell an origin story, a crime story, and a love story in a single 103-minute hatchet job. Ben Affleck is often roundly mocked for his grim-faced performance as Matt Murdock, the blind lawyer with heightened senses who moonlights as the costumed hero Daredevil, but no one in the movie’s cast can really be blamed for Johnson’s clumsily written take on the comics material, which amalgamates a bunch of bummers—dead dad, physical limitations, thirst for revenge, Catholic guilt—into an attempt at a darker, more psychological superhero movie. Daredevil does offer the novelty of showing a superhero in more physical pain than most, but Johnson amps up the superheroic feats to the same degree, making the suffering more of a pose than a story choice. (The recent Netflix TV series makes better use of this idea, and, for that matter, almost all Daredevil-related ideas). Its pop music reflects that music-video version of suffering.

In that sense, at least one of Matt Murdock tragedies does land. The movie’s version of Daredevil’s blindness (depicted, cartoonishly even for a comics adaptation, as more or less functional sight with some textural limitations) means that Murdock is cursed with the terrible ability to hear dozens of Wind-Up recording artists. Actually, the music in Daredevil is mostly non-diegetic (audible to the audience but not within the world of the movie), but it’s funnier to assume otherwise, and pretend that Murdock gets psyched for court by listening to “Won’t Back Down” by Fuel and that burgeoning assassin Elektra Natchios (Jennifer Garner) gets pumped for battle by listening to “Bring Me To Life” by Evanescence.

If Daredevil: The Album can claim a success story, Evanescence is it. “Bring Me To Life” (and fellow soundtrack cut “My Immortal”) appeared on their debut album Fallen, released just weeks after Daredevil, but simultaneous exposure on a major superhero movie soundtrack must have helped the songs and the band, even if they were poised for a breakout anyway. In the context of Daredevil: The Album, Evanescence does indeed stand out, if only as a break from the throaty male growls that dominate most of the rest of the record. They fit in with the Wind-Up crowd, but nonetheless manage to sound here like a Phoenix rising from the ashes of nu-metal and bro-rock simply by virtue of adding a female voice to the mix. When Elektra suits up (the suiting up in Daredevil owes a surprising amount to Schumacher’s version of Batman) and trains for vengeance in her inexplicably sandbag-filled apartment, with Amy Lee’s aggressively yearning vocals blasting away, the movie takes on a kind of cheesy grandeur that is, at very least, a culmination of the cheesiness that precedes it. For all of its missteps, Daredevil is somewhat true to comic books—just not particularly to Daredevil comic books, which are often, crucially, quite good. The film and soundtrack versions create an authentically second-hand experience; they don’t evoke the best Daredevil stories so much as the consumption of them. It’s easy to imagine an angsty teen blasting Evanescence while devouring dark and gritty Daredevil comics, nursing adolescent crushes on Amy Lee, Matt Murdock, and/or Elektra Natchios.


It follows, then, that Evanescence would figure heavily into Elektra: The Album, the Wind-Up soundtrack that accompanied the spinoff feature Elektra, released in early 2005, shortly after Daredevil completed its journey from mixed-review $100 million grosser to general punchline. Garner’s Elektra, killed off in Daredevil, is revived by another blind guy (Terence Stamp!) and trained in the assassination arts, which mainly involve lurking around the various forests where Fox insists at least some portion of its superhero properties must be shot. Eventually she takes it upon herself to protect two people from a gaggle of bad guys.

Whatever Elektra’s faults (and it has plenty), its approach to adapting comics characters is more painterly than Daredevil’s, with effective use of inky-black shadows that sometimes cast its heroine entirely in silhouette and CGI that’s still intrusive but less smothering than that of its cinematic sibling. In other words, it’s not especially crass for a movie where a sometimes-bustier-clad Jennifer Garner fights magic ninjas. As if to demonstrate that semi-classiness, the film makes almost no use of its Wind-Up roster. Of the 15 tracks on Elektra: The Album, exactly one plays in the background of exactly one scene, while a few more turn up over the end credits (although those credits seem to list more songs than are truly audible in the actual movie). Most galling to any hypothetical fans of Daredevil: The Album (and they may not be so hypothetical; by fall of 2003, the record had gone gold), Evanescence doesn’t make the cut. The band’s song “Breathe No More” is on Elektra: The Album, but not featured in the movie; even the heroine’s OCD-influenced training exercises pass by Evanescence-free, and fellow Wind-Up signee Megan McCauley gets the first credits slot.

It’s not especially surprising that a comics movie wouldn’t have much to do with its own soundtrack album, but it does make listening to Elektra: The Album a curious experience. The lousy album version of Daredevil very much brings to mind the lousy movie version of Daredevil, because they come from a similar impulse—a compatibly misguided idea of what ticket-buyers will find cool and alluring. Elektra: The Album, with faceless bands like 12 Stones replaying the same dun-dun-dun-dun-dun guitar riffs, is much more of a Daredevil sequel than the movie it’s based on (with additions like Jet and The Donnas serving as the requisite sequel variation on the Wind-Up formula).


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Worst. Article. Ever.

So f**cking cliche "Every band is bad even the really successful ones"

Why does the internet moron have such a moronic and unjustified and hypocrytical hate for early 2000's music?

Just the F**ck up and stop bleeding the same bull*hit terrible generalizations into every other blog and post.

Hit songs have always been featured in movies and the majority loved that.

Batman Forever, Batman Returns, Spiderman, Daredevil, Titanic,

If Christopher Nolan doesn't want to use pop songs that's fine, but can the intenet please stop gloating all the previos movies "got it wrong." We never had to hear these stupid complaints before 2005' Batman Begins.

Catwoman(2004) didn't have a pop soundtrack...Therefore ...GREAT COMIC BOOK FILM, RIGHT?!!!! RIGHT!!!!

Case Closed.





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