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Saw the Director's Cut, no where near as bad as its made out to be...

posted 10 years ago by sanddragon939
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The Kingpin and Bullseye were a wee bit over the top, and the plot is a little wobbly towards the end...but on the whole, it was a pretty enjoyable film!

The origin story was done pretty well. Overall, the faithfulness to the source material is pretty high. The Matt-Elektra romance was a bit rushed, but faithful to the spirit of their relationship in Frank Miller's original stories.

Most importantly, the film truly captured the grittiness and nocturnal violence of Frank Miller's Daredevil.

Now honestly, I suppose a lot of the flak the movie gets is because its compared to the far superior superhero films that followed...The Dark Knight Trilogy, Iron Man, The Avengers, Man of Steel and so on. But I think one needs to remember that this was the infancy of the current superhero blockbuster era. This was a time before Nolan, a time before the Marvel Cinematic Universe, a time before shows like Arrow, Flash or Gotham, among others.

And taking that into account, I think it was a pretty good film.

Then again, I've only seen the Director's Cut...maybe the theatrical version really is that bad. I doubt it though.

[–] jokkevideoedit 10 years ago

Have you watched the new Netflix "Daredevil" series?
If not, you're in for a treat ^^
Absolutely the best superhero tv show ever made

[–] The-Phantom-2040 10 years ago

I've seen the Netflix series, and--I like it, but I don't think it's better than this film. The devil's in the details, and the details is what this film had done well. The small things like the tilt of Matt's head, staying near the perimeter of an unfamiliar room, so on and so forth. The Netflix series doesn't really show that Matt really is blind, at least not enough for my taste.

Plus, between the two, I much prefer this film's costume to the one we see at the end of the Netflix series' season. It's protective, but stylish, while the new one is just too "busy". It's--visually chaotic.

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[–] Link6321 10 years ago

I've seen a glimpse of the Netflix series' first episode. Is it just me, or was the kid actor for young Matt horrible and loud? The way that entire scene of him going blind was set up came off really cheesy in general. They even showed the barrels multiple times, like...I GET IT, Mr. Director! I get it. And the line, "Your kid saved my life!" Seemed really forced, a not-so-subtle attempt at painting Matt as a hero that early on.

The kid Matt in this movie was a natural, in my opinion. And the accident in the film was straight to the point; there was no forced drama.

[–] The-Phantom-2040 10 years ago

I too liked the kid in the film better, but I didn't mind the kid in the series. I also agree that the way the blinding was handled was preferable in the film than the series. I also like that it left marks; chemical burns around the eyes, milky irises, and such. Granted, a lot of that is the relatively small budget and shorter preparation time the series had, so I think something like that is more forgivable.

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[–] Link6321 10 years ago

I see what you're saying. Granted, I haven't watched the series in full yet, so I don't really have a proper opinion of it yet. My first impressions of it just wasn't very good. I look forward to watching the entire thing when it becomes available to me, though. Wish Netflix would step up their international game.

[–] The-Phantom-2040 10 years ago

I hope so, too. Over all, I like the series. They took Fisk in different directions that kept the core of what makes him a worthwhile antagonist but put a different spin on things, which I thought was interesting. There were a few things with Fisk I didn't much care for, but I'll not spoil them for you.

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[–] bond_98 10 years ago

I watch the new Daredevil Show. I found it boring as hell. The movie was silly. But at i didn't fall asleep watching it. The Guy who plays Daredevil is as bland as white bread. Say what you want about Affleck. But at least it felt like he brought a lot more personality to the role.

[–] Link6321 10 years ago

Same here. I finally watched the whole first episode, and it just didn't do it for me. And, as with my first impression, I still found the kid Matt's overacting annoying -- roll-my-eyes annoying. The fight scenes I thought were done well, at least from what I saw. Foggy, my god, what the hell have they done?! I refuse to acknowledge that guy as Foggy!

Also, I didn't like how they didn't even bother with Matt's blindness. So many people made fun of how Affleck looked "derpy" in this film, but at least it looked like there was something going on with his eyes. The blind people I've seen in the real world kind of look like that, anyway; their eyes don't really know where to go, where to look. While watching the series, half the time I kept forgetting Matt was even blind because it just looked like the actor's looking at something from four feet away. I realize I'm just nitpicking here, but come on.

Lastly, both Matt and Foggy in the series look like they belong in a teen drama. Too young-looking for my taste.

I didn't continue watching after the first episode because it just wasn't doing it for me. People gave it so much praise that I couldn't help but feel underwhelmed after finally watching it. I was looking forward to this series, too. Even before its release I was already wondering how I'd be able to legally watch it seeing that it's a Netflix show and Netflix isn't available where I live.

[–] Chiller7 10 years ago

I see what you're saying. I too have just started watching the series, but just like you, I also feel myself having more appreciation for some of the things the movie actually did better, even if the fans generally seem to hate the movie and love the series.

I've only watched a couple episodes (and I expect it to get better), but the worst thing about the series so far is Foggy. The Jon Favreau version from the movie was funny and likable - you can't help but feel kinda sorry for him as a guy who tried too hard, even if he wasn't the best at what he does. But that guy in the series is just plain obnoxious.

[–] Mr_Recchia 10 years ago

If you're an individual with even the faintest knowledge of quality, it's an absolute physical impossibility to watch the show and falsely interpret it as bad, especially while defending the awful movie. The writing, performances, casting and directing are objectively good from the first episode onwards. So given the silly criticism you've thrown out, including irrational outbursts against the kid actor, who was fine, and calling near middle aged actors as teenager lookalikes, I'm sensing an agenda of frustration stemmed from being the outlier who can't see the quality in front of him. Very typical on the Internet.

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[–] Link6321 10 years ago

by Carlo_Recchia » 1 day ago (Sun May 3 2015 23:02:10)

If you're an individual with even the faintest knowledge of quality, it's an absolute physical impossibility to watch the show and falsely interpret it as bad, especially while defending the awful movie. The writing, performances, casting and directing are objectively good from the first episode onwards. So given the silly criticism you've thrown out, including irrational outbursts against the kid actor, who was fine, and calling near middle aged actors as teenager lookalikes, I'm sensing an agenda of frustration stemmed from being the outlier who can't see the quality in front of him. Very typical on the Internet.

Haha. You know what's more "typical of the internet"? When manchildren like you make an opinion personal. Bravo. I have my own opinion of the Daredevil show that you don't agree with, big whoop! Already you've analyzed me based on one opinion you disagree with. You make it sound like I personally went into your house and dissected your cat. You say you're "sensing an agenda of frustration," yet your own very post reeks of that; it's quite apparent you're frustrated that, shockingly enough, not everyone likes the Daredevil show. Your post screams of elitism.

If you love the show, good for you, but don't be askin' for a medal, honey. Notice how I never said anything about the people who do like the show in the three posts I made in this thread? Let's try to act our age, shall we? 

[–] nightwing60 10 years ago

Its not bad. But it is very very mediocre and generic. Also i get really sick of your holly than thou attitude. Like you got all the damn answer. Especially from a guy who gave Man of Steel a 8 and gave Rise of the Planet of the Apes a 5. That is laughable. According to you and your leagues of delusional fanboys. DareDevil is better than every Super-Hero movie ever made. Which is bullsh!t. Including Batman Begins and the Dark Knight. Im not the biggest fan of Nolan. But those two are light years better than this mediocre show. Other than Vincent D'onofrio, who is the best actor on the show. The Acting is passable. But not great. The writing o.k.. But the dialog is incredible cheesy in some scene and incredible boring in others. Just because something has a dark tone. Dosn't make it great. Finally that kid is annoying.

[–] TheGreatGeekGod 10 years ago

Well Spider-Man was before this film, and it was no where near as good as it(and I really don't like that one either).

[–] aknockoffproduction 10 years ago

The theatrical version is that bad. It's a whole different movie.

[–] Minus_The_Beer 10 years ago

The Director's Cut adds some really great stuff, but stands in stark contrast to some of the sillier stuff on hand like the playground fight and, well, Colin Farrell. Somewhere in the mix is a better film. I'd like to see a Director's Cut that ditches some of the camp, but alas, that will never happen.

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[–] Herreken 9 years ago

Agreed. I saw the theatrical version when it came out on DVD and I thought the movie was pretty bad. Years and years later (last year) I watched the Director's Cut. The Director's Cut didn't get rid of what made the theatrical version terrible.

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[–] TMC-4 10 years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCmqJJIUAH4

Captain Logan, Dan Torrey, and Steve Baxi watch and discuss the Daredevil Director's Cut. Note: This was recorded prior to the release of the Daredevil Netflix television series.

[–] edgar959 10 years ago

i stopped watching this crap after that kid's playground scene, just too much cheese for my taste, tv show is miles better overall

[–] hafabee 9 years ago

I just watched it and I agree, it's much better than it's reputation, it's actually a halfway decent movie.

I saw Daredevil in the theatre and I remember coming away from it disappointed so either my tastes have changed in the last 12 years (totally possible) or the Director's Cut is a much improved version of the film. I like this movie, it has a good plot structure with great pacing, interesting characters, decent action scenes (a little lacking by today's standards) and was quite close to the comics as well, closer than most of the comic book movies.

I gave it a 6/10. It might be even more deserving than that, good popcorn flick.

[–] x_ForestG_x 9 years ago

Amen to that. I actually prepared to be disappointed with the movie, but the director cut is actually pretty good, if only they put villain character that is better...

The movie is better than the TV series.

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