What was the 'meaning' of the final scene?
I have my theory, but I'm interested in what other people's take was on it.
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I have my theory, but I'm interested in what other people's take was on it.
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Amanda
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The final scene, where at first it seems like Leticia is going to confront Hank on the truth about his former job, but for some reason, doesn't. Look at her body language, she is dealing with life before her before Hank, the relationship to that point, and looks how much Hank has grown and she has grown. That semi-smile at the end? She's made her choice to stick with Hank.
shareMy theory is she was pregnant. Remember that Make me feel good session? It worked in more ways than one.
-- I walk around mumbling to myself. People think I'm not crazy - they think I'm on my cell phone.
why would she be pregnant? She didn't look pregnant, she looked like she was ready to confront Hank with the truth about his former job, but reflected on their shared experience and made her choice.
shareI think the simplest explanation is always the best. She must have had a damn good reason to stick w/Hank, what with her discovery, and the creepy tombstones, and him a generally creepy guy.
-- I walk around mumbling to myself. People think I'm not crazy - they think I'm on my cell phone.
could you back that statement up if she was white instead of black? Or do you just make cockamamie assumptions like that whenever you see an African-American woman have sex on the movie screen? Besides, the only thing she had in her hand was the crumbled up picture of him her husband drew, not a pregnancy test.
shareJust that if you put your dik inside a woman there is a strong possibility she might get pregnant. This is something I read.
I don't know if Africans or American woemn are any different in that respect, I suppose abt the same. That and also HB saying on the commentary that she wanted to end with a pregnant shot, but Foster killed that idea, and he was right IMO.
-- I walk around mumbling to myself. People think I'm not crazy - they think I'm on my cell phone.
I know that, but this is a movie, it is fiction. Fiction meaning people have sex without the consequences.
I know that African-American women aren't any different from white women when it comes to that regard, in reality. If only the movies can give a better impression on that fact.
And Marc Forster was right to kill the pregnancy shot, it was better for the movie.
Just that if you put your dik inside a woman there is a strong possibility she might get pregnant. This is something I read.share
im gonna do it... lol
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
Forgiveness and redemption. Love.
shareI think yours is the best interpretation.
shareby - fanaticita on Tue Jul 29 2008 15:49:39
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Forgiveness and redemption. Love.
Whaaat?? O_o'.... Your theory is far fetched bro... You can't just take a movie and add whatever you want without any hint or reason! lmao!
My theory is that halle's stepbrother is a xenomorph because laeticia's gas station and furthermore today is probably Tuesday!
So no, she's not pregnant...
She didn't say anything about the drawings 'coz she probably thought that its not worth it having a fight about it, considering how nice hank was to her.
And the fact that she could finally start from zero again with a guy who's not a murderer for once! Start over a brand new life where she could finally be happy... Thats why! And not because she's pregnant! loool
Peace
"People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs"
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I was thinking the same thing. I thought her expression was great when he fed her some of the ice cream, she knew he loved her at that moment.
You just going to stand there like a Lemon? -- Fable
i think acceptance. they r both getting over the fact they lost their children, that they miss them....and they r moving on, and filling the hole of their loss, by being with each other.
lovely ending
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Yes!
I believe she was on the verge of confronting him. She had planned on it, then was lost in his happiness for a bit (Oh look I brought home ice cream, come outside with me!)
Then, when she looked over at the three tombstones... She realized they probably both had lost a lot respectively. They were both broken people, with a lot of things to move past. In the grand scheme of things, she probably realized "So they knew each other...what does it change? What can be fixed?" Her husband was already dead and she had a second chance at happiness.
I absolutely loved that smile she gave when he fed her the ice cream.
Afterward he says to her "I think we're gonna be alright"
Which, I think she knew.
Yeah, I thought she was going to shoot him too. I also thought Hank's dad might shoot them.
"Anybody Wanna' Waste Some Time?"
I was ready for that as well, especially the camera shot that lingered on the tombstones, foreshadowing "someone is gonna die soon"
It's spelled Raymond Luxury Yacht, but it's pronounced 'Throat-Warbler Mangrove'
What I took from the scenes is that Laticia discovers the drawings by her former husband, puts two and two together about Hank's previous occupation and his part in the former husband's execution and she is enveloped by a trapped feeling. Hank returns and she is speechless as he questions whether she is alright, nodding yes slightly in answer to each of his questions. They then move to the front steps and as Hank shares the ice cream with her and she feels the genuineness of his caring for her and realizes she's not trapped if she wants to be there. And she wants to be there.
shareI think she was extremely upset when she realized the connection to her husband, but that in the end she decided that being taken care of (in all ways) was more important than confronting Hank. Obviously, eventually it will come up.
shareI thought it was about accepting that the past happened, and it needs to be put behind her, and the future is waiting for her.
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It means pretty much what Hank said - that they're "going to be all right."
I don't care much for the underdeveloped nature of Hank's character, and that we never see him break down. We never see him cry over his son or have any breakthroughs. While it is disappointing, I think they left that up to the audience's imagination to assume. I think it can be assumed that they'll continue to make a home out of Hank's house, they'll probably marry eventually, keep developing his new business (the gas station), keep setting up house, eventually hang up pictures of their kids, maybe have one or two more of their OWN children, and... Hank will eventually get in touch with his feelings and heal. They'll help each other heal.
IMO. the scene in the car when Hank drove Leticia home was a breakthrough for him since he admitted that he never was a very good father, and that his son was a good kid. He struggled to express himself in words which was true to his character.
I think Hank did show his feelings but it was more through his actions such as coming to her rescue when she had been evicted, going out to get ice cream for them to share, dumping his obnoxious dad in a rest home, etc.
BB Thornton loves Halle Berry at the point of the final scene. But If you want to think for the sake of thinking, i dont think this love would last forever
Halle gets a good deal in life, and BBT isn't very smart or special so he's got a good deal with a hot woman 10 years younger. Thats love in most cases, unfortunately.
Darkness lies an inch ahead
I too thought she had gotten a gun, perhaps his, from that room and was going to shoot him.
I do think she decided to stay.
But in the back of my mind I was wondering if that look on her face was just deciding to bide her time until she picked the right time.
I also wondered what was the deal with him being sick every morning? I thought he was going to end up telling her he's dying also.
And who were the three graves?
> And who were the three graves?
1) Hank's mother, 2) Hank's wife, and 3) Hank's son. All three were suicides too.
As for the final scene. My interpretation was that Leticia decided to move on with life and the relationship with Hank rather than dwelling on the past.
The movie never shows a close-up of one of Larwence's pictures and so we don't know if he puts dates on them. If he did not put the full date on the pictures of Hank and Sonny then Leticia would not know these were drawn the night he was executed.
I had two thoughts on the retching. The first was that Hank had a hangover, was sick, or was dying. I then looked at the beginning of the movie again and decided the issue was that he hated his job. Sonny's death was the final straw.
Regarding the retching, Hank also retched after sex with Leticia. It was explained by the director and writers commentary on the director's cut DVD that Hank would get physically ill when he experienced feelings of love or affection, something foreign to his upbringing and conditioning. At the beginning of the film, after he woke up and retched, he then tried to open Sonny's bedroom door, perhaps to talk with his son, but the door was locked. This was left nebulous but possibly he was in a fatherly mood to reconcile the distant relationship with his son, and this may have been an early hint regarding his later transformation.
shareI just watched this again last night- great movie! I agree that the ending is one of hope- love, forgiveness and redemption. My thought about him retching the next morning after he has sex with Leticia is that now that he is sober- he realizes the full impact of who he slept with- the wife of the man they just executed (because he recognizes the pictures she shows him the night before were drawn by Lawrence).
He was probably overwhelmed.
I think one important thing that is easy to miss is that the fact that Lawrence drew pictures of both Hank and his son, implying that Hank's relationship with Lawrence was not one of disdain. Rather, Lawrence must have considered Hank and his boy "friends" -- or the closest thing to it for a man who's hours from being executed.
Therefore, after the numbness subsided, she probably understood this to mean that their lives were intermingled more than she even thought possible. Their relationship was perhaps in some way a product of destiny running its course, even sacred and beautiful in its unpredictability.