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Are seasons 7 and 8 any good?


I'm now on season 6 - not that impressed so was wondering if 7 and 8 are as good as previous seasons?
I would rate them like this...5,2,4,1,3

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I was bored most of season 6 but really enjoyed season 7. Season 8 should never have existed in my opinion except for the very end. :) But season 9 was also very good!

Honestly though, the first five seasons were the absolute best!

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7 is a really enjoyable season despite some questionable decisions, the second half of 8 is brilliant.

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Season 7 is my 2nd favorite season!

Season 8 is garbage until the last 8 episodes.

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I enjoyed both Seasons 7 and 8 (Season 7 a bit more).

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Season 7 was a really awesome season but i didn't like the last 7 or 8 episodes. I would have changed those a bit:

I would have had MANDY return and have a "relationship" with Tony and i wouldn't have introduced the whole "Cabal" thing. It felt like too much. Plus, we already knew who was behind the events in season 5 and 6 ;).

I would have liked it more if Tony and Mandy used their men to test the weapon in the subway and then at the end it is revealed that Tony plans to go to CHARLES LOGAN's HOME and release the weapon there, killing him and getting his revenge for Michelle.

"Gregory Itzin" could even have appeared in the last episode.

But he would stay alive ofcourse because he returns in Season 8.


And that brings me to Season 8 because that was just perfect. I couldn't find a negative thing about it.

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7 is ok, feels a bit dfferent to me, in a good way. 8 second half was ok.

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Alan Wilson was behind season 4 thru 7 so know we didn't know who was ultimately behind it all until the last eight episodes of season 7. Alan Wilson was the best

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Season 8, I liked the whole thing.

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Season 7 is my fourth after 5, 3 and 1, but I don't like the section where the villains break into the white house, as I thought that was too far fetched, unless I am wrong.

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Season 7... but I don't like the section where the villains break into the white house, as I thought that was too far fetched, unless I am wrong.


I have to agree. Season 7 had a lot of amazing moments in it, both towards the end (Jack's speech to Renee, Jack in the hospital with the Imam) and from start to finish (mostly the introduction of Renee Walker), but it also had some sloppy moments. For starters, the White House Ambush like you said, and also the introduction and intentions of Tony.Carlos Bernard is absolutely fantastic as Tony however and I would love to see him in the show again!

On first viewing, Season 1 was my favourite due to the classical plot twists, and slower, but realistic advances in the plot.

However, after re-watching all the Seasons again (yes I am a 24 Fanatic and need something to do whilst there is no 24 on TV) my favourites have to be:

1. Season 4 - Firstly, there is no Kim. Her character is annoying in every season. Except maybe season 7, where even Elisha Cuthbert seems to have matured through age. Secondly, the terrorists (Araz family) are conflicted by morality and actually have an interesting story line as the 'bad guys.' Thirdly, Marwan is an awesome terrorist!! Fourthly, the introduction of the amazing Charles Logan. Fifthly, Tony Almeida!!! This was an amazing come back season for him! His hostage situation with Mandy, Michelle's conflict of helping her love or doing what is good for the greater good, the assumed 'death' of Tony, and the consequent love that triumphs is truly beautiful and emotional. This was by far Tony's best season in my opinion. Finally, the ending is the best of any season and could have been tied up like that. I mean if 24 ever gives Jack a proper ending, it would have to be something similar to that of Season 4. This season is by far the most underrated in my view and in terms of mere continuation, realism, drama, and action it is the best. There is no question in my mind. 10/10.

2. Season 3 - by a hair over Season 2. Why? Firstly, Jack finally kills Nina - the most satisfying death in the entire show!! Secondly, in contrast to Michelle's decision for the greater good in Season 4 above, Tony shows his unconditional love for Michelle by giving in to terrorists to help her and consequently cops jail for it, which ultimately breaks his relationship with Michelle and gives rise to the fantastic return in Season 4. Not to mention, Tony being shot in the neck and immediately going back to work - seriously love the guy! Thirdly, this season is the best indication of Tony and Jack's friendship, demonstrated by the undercover sting operation. Fourth, Jack as a heroin junkie undercover and also trying to recover from his addiction all in one Season is amazing to watch. Fourth, the threat being based in Mexico is something nice and different and the Salazars are excellent villains too!! Finally, the ending of this season is also amazing. Definitely another fashion in which 24 could conclude, at least Jack's story arch. Chase Edmunds was also a very good aid to Jack in this season. Did I forget the very powerfully emotional death of Chappele?? 9.5/10.

3. Season 2 - A very difficult choice here, again by a hair over the much loved Season 5. Why? This season mainly owed to George Mason and Sherry Palmer. First, George Mason is absolutely fantastic!! His initial fear of dying, leaving CTU, then being infected is extraordinary. Then, his comeback, his purely objective stance, his no b**ls%$t attitude to the threat, and his extremely emotional scenes with his own son, Jack, Tony and also Michelle are up there in some of the most dramatic scenes of TV!! The last second takeover of the plane prior to Jack's speech to Kim always has been in tears. Too much emotion in one scene seriously one of my favourties episodes of 24 ever. Penny Johnson Jerald on the other hand - she is all class!! Her acting is top notch! She is shining in every scene. Her believable, manipulative talks are simply a pleasure to watch. Other than that, the blowing up of CTU, the explosion of a nuclear bomb, the conspiracy within the President's staff, which is one of the first seasons to actually exemplify that there are always more powerful forces at work then the President, even in real life it would be the same, except maybe the President would not have as much strength and confidence as David Palmer to actually fight the bad guys. This is a season with incredible story telling and amazing twists - it took what Season 1 had and improved on it surprisingly. 9.5/10.

4. Season 5 - albeit this is most fans' favourite Season it is not mine, for the reasons mentioned above I think Seasons 4, 3 and 2 are better than it. Number 1, although the biggest WOW moment of the entire show, the deaths of 3 major characters all in a flash within the first 15 minutes, Tony's ending felt too rushed and not well thought out. He survived, barely getting up after 12 episodes only to be stabbed to death by Henderson. Was not very happy about that. However, the surprise factor was definitely there and it did set up the rest of the Season for a stellar finish. Charles and Martha Logan are the real standouts in this Season, but at the same time, a big annoyance towards Jack and also me as a viewer. But praise has to be given to their acting which has won several awards. The ending of this season, although a cliffhanger, annoyed me the most, and for me, I think is PART (not whole) of the reason Season 6 failed. It was too difficult to think of a way out from there. For these reasons, it cannot be my favouite. However, Henderson was an extraordinary villain. 9/10.

5. Season 7 - Although there are some rough patches throughout, the introduction of Renee Walker and Jack's relationship with her, especially his advice and emotional speeches are the true standouts. Although many viewers did not like the way Tony was not only introduced back into the show, but also his intentions, I completely understood them all. I mean, take a guy, working at CTU, in Season 1 he is dating the biggest traitor of the entire show, in Season 2 he is bombed and reluctantly starts a relationship with his new love Michelle, but all of a sudden in Season 3 his relationship with Michelle breaks down because he does in fact choose to save her life and help the terrorists consequently the government throws him in jail, in Season 4 he makes a come back, his life is a mess, nothing makes him happy, walks into CTU and the awkwardness of Michelle being director there and also dating Bills, he gets taken hostage Michelle does NOT give in to terrorists, but the poor bloke still loves her and they make it out together - but wait a second, his wife gets bombed in the first moments of Season 5 and he is stuck in the aftermath only to be stabbed by Henderson 12 episodes after he barely recovers. After he has been through all of this, I think it is reasonable to assume that he would do whatever is necessary to kill the group involved in orchestrating the events that ruined his life in addition to the government who did nothing to assist him even though he was always doing the right thing? Yes, he was 'evil' and he did 'bad' things, but this was the point! Completely understandable in my opinion. Maybe it was a stretch that they 'brought him back to life' by Henderson giving him a planned injection to 'use' him, but it is still within the confines of realism and not to mention after 7 seasons, we do need to take it a bit further to keep it interesting. There was plenty to like in this season and Tony as a bad guy, but with some degree of morals remaining, was awesome to watch. Jack's sickness and scenes with Kim, Renee and the Imam are truly emotional. This was by all means an excellent bloody season. 9/10.

6. Season 1 - An all time classic. Although the plot is slower and also very simple and basic it is the season that set the bar high. Jack's acting is fantastic throughout, but the let downs of this season are the scenes involving Terri and Kim, who were acted mediocre in my opinion. The characters had more of an introduction in this season than anything else, and Jack managed to carry the entire season on his shoulders alone. 9/10.

7. Season 8 - Contrary to other opinions, Season 8 was quite enjoyable and in my opinion slightly better than Season 9. This was the first time we got to see Jack go on an absolute frenzy. Not to mention the ending is not bad either. However, the first half was relatively weak, but after Renee's death, it picked up and didn't let go. 8.5/10.

8. Season 9 - An enjoyable season throughout, but with recycled ideas and an ending which provides no satisfaction, especially since Jack is not considering doing any more 24. 8/10.

9. Season 6 - Agreeably the weakest Season of 24, it does start out amazing, but there is simply too much going on that shouldn't be. Jack's family gets involved, his dad and brother try to kill him, and are revealed to be major orchestrators in plenty of the bad things that happened in Season 5 felt a bit too much to me. Albeit Season 7 picked up on this very good, Season 6 didn't do too good. Wayne Palmer as President? I don't think so. But still good TV compared to what else is on. 7/10.

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Season 8 is, in my opinion, the most boring season of the show.


The front 2/3 of season 8 is pretty rough. Personally, though, I think the last 1/3 is pretty damn fun. Mainly due to the return of a certain someone.

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I hated the last 1/3 of season 8 cause it ended poorly for a conclusion to the series. Plus it also recycled the same ending pretty much from season 4.

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Xen11:

Great post.

Great read.

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Personally I like Jack becoming more like Tony.

I think that in Season 7, Jack and Tony should have reversed roles, and have Jack become the villain for that season, and have the show end with him being put in jail and tortured by Renee Walker for interrogation, thereby putting dramatic irony into it.

I think it would have been a better ending than season 8, which is very too be continued.

What do you think?

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Hm yeah, but there's a little difference between Jack's and Tony/Margot's dark side: he never risks innocent lives to carry on his vendetta. Be the revenge on the Drazens or the people who killed Renee or Audrey he's always alone, acting by himself, without risking anyone's life.

The only way that Jack would risk an innocent person's life would be to protect Kimberly. At that point, he's a big hypocritical (and that's great!), because at times, he demands characters to make sacrifices to save the world (like killing Paul Raines to save the other bad guy), including leaving loved ones behind, but when it comes to Kim, or Jack saves her alongside the world, or everyone dies. But since he's Jack Bauer, he always ends up saving everyone.

As for the Legacy idea, it would be interesting to turn Jack into a 'villain', but not too much, let's no transform him into Tony Almeida.

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If you mean the Drazen family, it wasn't Jack's fault per se. The intel he had was wrong, he didn't know that Victor wasn't in the building in Kosovo, and that instead it was his wife and daughter there. I really doubt that Jack would kill them just for the lulz.

But yeah, I give you that he was out of control during Day 8, who knows what could have happened. But the thing is, it didn't happen, so Jack still has to kill - or at least try, like Tony - an innocent person on purpose to fulfill a selfish intention. He still is different from Tony or Margot.

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Perhaps the reason why Jack resents the terrorists so much is because, deep down, he feels he is closer to them than he would ever like to admit. Perhaps he feels that if he can stop enough of them, he will somehow absolve himself of whatever monster he himself also possesses.

Jack has actually alluded to this several times I believe, not to mention Jack is of course no 'hero.' I can't remember which season or who, but I think several times times characters have said to Jack 'you are no different [to the terrorists]'.

Jack is my 'hero' however, and the reason he is my hero is not because he is a 'hero' per se, but rather because he is the main reason I love 24 - due to his grey character.

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I love that Jack became somewhat of a villain. That was the point. He had become like Tony, lost in his vengeance. Even further illustrated/hinted at in LAD. "I hate them." Throwing someone out a window without a second thought. Margot was a sort-of mirror of him (and Tony). Like Jack at the end of Day 8, she was putting everyone's lives at risk just to quench bloodlust-vengeance for the death of their loved ones.

I remember getting into it deeply with people on the LAD board during its airings. I was comparing Margot's actions to the United States and Jack Bauer. People were not happy with what I had to say. They thought I was defending terrorism but I was merely trying to illustrate how the people they called "the good guys" were no different. And that's the whole point of 24. The first season, Jack Bauer is the villain. Bad things are happening to him because he killed innocent women and children. He killed someone's family and now they are after him. That doesn't make what the "bad guys" are doing as right, but the point is that they are really not that different.

I really hope 24: Legacy is a trojan horse that gets us attached to some new characters and then brings in Tony to eventually side with them. Then, Jack Bauer returns and he makes up a story about getting out from under the Russians, but then the big twist is that he is working with the Russians ala Nina Myers. Continue to illustrate the grey area that 24 has always tried to get across. Jack has his reasons to do what he is doing. Are the Russians in the right and America wrong in this situation? And how "evil" will Jack be?

Imagine a season where the villain is Jack Bauer. You are on these people's side (the Legacy cast) and Jack Bauer is the baddest motherfu ker (ala Jason Voorhees) just slaughtering everyone. It would be like a horror show. How scary would it be to oppose a ruthless unstoppable Jack Bauer that is no longer "good"? That would make a great villain.

And I fear that TPTB fear it would be too much for simpletons to handle. Confused people might riot and say, "How dare they ruin my hero?" Those people miss the point.

But like I said, its grey. Jack Bauer and the Russians might be right in what they fight for in that situation.

It would be a reverse of Jack and Tony from Day 7. Bring in Chloe in the role of the viewer, the fan/friend of both, as she/we are in a tug-of-war of emotions between our two friends.


Fantastic read!

Honestly, if the show wanted to continue, this is the BEST possible scenario.

Jack as a villain which a new CTU is trying to stop...now at least that will be something 'new'!!!

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Season 7 was very very good and i enjoyed it up until the part where Bill dies:(((...

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My opinion is that season 7 was middle of the road and season 8 was a disappointment, worst of all the seasons except 6.

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Season 7 is decent. Renee Walker absolutely makes season 7 worth watching. She has the best character arc in the whole season.

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