Are seasons 7 and 8 any good?
I'm now on season 6 - not that impressed so was wondering if 7 and 8 are as good as previous seasons?
I would rate them like this...5,2,4,1,3
I'm now on season 6 - not that impressed so was wondering if 7 and 8 are as good as previous seasons?
I would rate them like this...5,2,4,1,3
I was bored most of season 6 but really enjoyed season 7. Season 8 should never have existed in my opinion except for the very end. :) But season 9 was also very good!
Honestly though, the first five seasons were the absolute best!
7 is a really enjoyable season despite some questionable decisions, the second half of 8 is brilliant.
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Season 7 is my 2nd favorite season!
Season 8 is garbage until the last 8 episodes.
I've got no future I can plan on past tomorrow
I enjoyed both Seasons 7 and 8 (Season 7 a bit more).
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Season 7 was a really awesome season but i didn't like the last 7 or 8 episodes. I would have changed those a bit:
I would have had MANDY return and have a "relationship" with Tony and i wouldn't have introduced the whole "Cabal" thing. It felt like too much. Plus, we already knew who was behind the events in season 5 and 6 ;).
I would have liked it more if Tony and Mandy used their men to test the weapon in the subway and then at the end it is revealed that Tony plans to go to CHARLES LOGAN's HOME and release the weapon there, killing him and getting his revenge for Michelle.
"Gregory Itzin" could even have appeared in the last episode.
But he would stay alive ofcourse because he returns in Season 8.
And that brings me to Season 8 because that was just perfect. I couldn't find a negative thing about it.
7 is ok, feels a bit dfferent to me, in a good way. 8 second half was ok.
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Alan Wilson was behind season 4 thru 7 so know we didn't know who was ultimately behind it all until the last eight episodes of season 7. Alan Wilson was the best
shareSeason 8, I liked the whole thing.
shareSeason 7 is my fourth after 5, 3 and 1, but I don't like the section where the villains break into the white house, as I thought that was too far fetched, unless I am wrong.
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Season 7... but I don't like the section where the villains break into the white house, as I thought that was too far fetched, unless I am wrong.
Season 8 is, in my opinion, the most boring season of the show.
I hated the last 1/3 of season 8 cause it ended poorly for a conclusion to the series. Plus it also recycled the same ending pretty much from season 4.
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Xen11:
Great post.
Great read.
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Personally I like Jack becoming more like Tony.
I think that in Season 7, Jack and Tony should have reversed roles, and have Jack become the villain for that season, and have the show end with him being put in jail and tortured by Renee Walker for interrogation, thereby putting dramatic irony into it.
I think it would have been a better ending than season 8, which is very too be continued.
What do you think?
Hm yeah, but there's a little difference between Jack's and Tony/Margot's dark side: he never risks innocent lives to carry on his vendetta. Be the revenge on the Drazens or the people who killed Renee or Audrey he's always alone, acting by himself, without risking anyone's life.
The only way that Jack would risk an innocent person's life would be to protect Kimberly. At that point, he's a big hypocritical (and that's great!), because at times, he demands characters to make sacrifices to save the world (like killing Paul Raines to save the other bad guy), including leaving loved ones behind, but when it comes to Kim, or Jack saves her alongside the world, or everyone dies. But since he's Jack Bauer, he always ends up saving everyone.
As for the Legacy idea, it would be interesting to turn Jack into a 'villain', but not too much, let's no transform him into Tony Almeida.
I once told a man to go screw himself! Can you even imagine?! - Kilgrave
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If you mean the Drazen family, it wasn't Jack's fault per se. The intel he had was wrong, he didn't know that Victor wasn't in the building in Kosovo, and that instead it was his wife and daughter there. I really doubt that Jack would kill them just for the lulz.
But yeah, I give you that he was out of control during Day 8, who knows what could have happened. But the thing is, it didn't happen, so Jack still has to kill - or at least try, like Tony - an innocent person on purpose to fulfill a selfish intention. He still is different from Tony or Margot.
I once told a man to go screw himself! Can you even imagine?! - Kilgrave
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Perhaps the reason why Jack resents the terrorists so much is because, deep down, he feels he is closer to them than he would ever like to admit. Perhaps he feels that if he can stop enough of them, he will somehow absolve himself of whatever monster he himself also possesses.
I love that Jack became somewhat of a villain. That was the point. He had become like Tony, lost in his vengeance. Even further illustrated/hinted at in LAD. "I hate them." Throwing someone out a window without a second thought. Margot was a sort-of mirror of him (and Tony). Like Jack at the end of Day 8, she was putting everyone's lives at risk just to quench bloodlust-vengeance for the death of their loved ones.
I remember getting into it deeply with people on the LAD board during its airings. I was comparing Margot's actions to the United States and Jack Bauer. People were not happy with what I had to say. They thought I was defending terrorism but I was merely trying to illustrate how the people they called "the good guys" were no different. And that's the whole point of 24. The first season, Jack Bauer is the villain. Bad things are happening to him because he killed innocent women and children. He killed someone's family and now they are after him. That doesn't make what the "bad guys" are doing as right, but the point is that they are really not that different.
I really hope 24: Legacy is a trojan horse that gets us attached to some new characters and then brings in Tony to eventually side with them. Then, Jack Bauer returns and he makes up a story about getting out from under the Russians, but then the big twist is that he is working with the Russians ala Nina Myers. Continue to illustrate the grey area that 24 has always tried to get across. Jack has his reasons to do what he is doing. Are the Russians in the right and America wrong in this situation? And how "evil" will Jack be?
Imagine a season where the villain is Jack Bauer. You are on these people's side (the Legacy cast) and Jack Bauer is the baddest motherfu ker (ala Jason Voorhees) just slaughtering everyone. It would be like a horror show. How scary would it be to oppose a ruthless unstoppable Jack Bauer that is no longer "good"? That would make a great villain.
And I fear that TPTB fear it would be too much for simpletons to handle. Confused people might riot and say, "How dare they ruin my hero?" Those people miss the point.
But like I said, its grey. Jack Bauer and the Russians might be right in what they fight for in that situation.
It would be a reverse of Jack and Tony from Day 7. Bring in Chloe in the role of the viewer, the fan/friend of both, as she/we are in a tug-of-war of emotions between our two friends.
Season 7 is decent. Renee Walker absolutely makes season 7 worth watching. She has the best character arc in the whole season.
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