Does anybody even care about Hector

Rsalazar 2006:

Please, PLEASE familiarize yourself with the law. First off, these girls are minors having sex with adults. Rape. Second of all when she said get off, the men continued to have sexual intercourse with her. Rape.

Point is: Consensual sex does not make a different when a minor is involved and even the girl said no, yes, no, a case could be made she said yes because she was fearful to say no. Either way, she said no and that's all it takes during trial.

If Hector made as much money as he said he did, he would have been fine with a lawyer. If not he would have been represented by a public defender. In any event, he would have been charged with rape and sentenced to jail.

This is not injustice, this is common sense.

Umm, no, it was rape. Statutory rape as well as violent rape. And yes, Emily was crying out in pain, but she was also telling them to get off, which they eventually did, but certainly not right away. RAPE! The gangsters should have known that having girls have sex with them to be initiated is a dangerous game to play, and sooner or later someone was gonna call RAPE.

No,but I would sure shoot him if I had the chance.

Illigitimi non Carborundum

agree 100% OP not a depiction of rape.

Both girls willingly walked into that room knowing they were going to have sex with those men.

When Anne told Hector to stop, he did and got off her, clearly not the actions of a rapist. Now he didnt stop immediately, because lets be honest, sometimes no means no and sometimes no means a little more foreplay first. But they point is he stopped without forcing himself on her.

When Bijou cried out and told them to stop they not only got up they immediately left the room, clearly not the actions of rapists.

Now whether they stopped the split second the words came out her mouth or not they still respected her wishes and stopped. Your're telling me if a girl tells you to stop and you give two pumps and get off of her that's rape? Not only is that completely unfair to the male, its also one of the stupidest things ive ever heard. Women cant retroactively decide they were raped because they regret their decision, at the time it either is or isnt.

Now rape is a horrible action which only pathetic dicks engage in because they cant get laid, but regardless if your're already inside a woman and she tells to you to stop and you do thats not rape. I dont know why this is so confusing to people because to me rape is pretty obvious.

Can't believe anyone thinks this is rape?!
Girls came on their own. Agreed to have sex with any number of them (to join the gang). After one of them changed her mind, they let her go. The other WANTED to stay, she knew that 3 of them are gonna *beep* her. When she said no, they stopped, maybe not instantly but C'MON. If you're in the middle of it, and all of the sudden she starts screaming "no, no, stop!!" is it a rape ?! OF COURSE NOT. Just a stupid indecisive girl.

After reading this thread, I can honestly say I'm glad I'm not a young woman in the 21st century. Guys get away with way too much now. It's a pity girls let them, but to each her own.






"Joey, have you ever been in a Turkish prison?"

consensual at first or not, it was definitely rape at a specific point. Those men were not stupid, they knew that these were two very foolish, naive girls who were not only drunk, but going along with what was being suggested to them because it was like they had a chance to prove they were 'real gangsters' or whatever, and not 'not real' like Hector so accurately observed. Those men never said anything about Emily having sex with them all at once, and she never agreed to that, as you can see when she says "I wanna do Hector first" - key word here, FIRST. That implies one at a time. And those guys never contradict her and say 'no no, all at once', so she never gets a chance to give, or not give her consent to that kind of set up.
So, what WAS rape here was the part where Hector beckons that other guy over, and doesn't ask Emily first. She probably thought that when the other guy jumped on (remember she's drunk) that she'd misunderstood the arrangement and was actually supposed to do them all at once, an that'd be why she waits a bit before realising it's not for her and telling them to stop. BESIDES, at that point she was clearly in pain and not enjoying it and we all know she didn't agree to have sex with two guys at once.
HOWEVER, I will say this much, kudos to the men for not carrying on when Emily tells them to stop, and also to Hector when Alison tells him to stop. It's just a pity Hector an his brother hadn't made their intentions clear to Emily then she would have a chance to say either yes or no, and either way there'd have been no rape at all. But of course, then there'd be no storyline. Also, Emily shouldn't have lied about the dice and the rest of the situation, but in a culture like this where women are 'asking for it' just because of the clothes they wear, you can understand why she'd be worried that her rape charge wouldn't be taken seriously if the police knew about those details. Not saying what she did was right, but you can understand why. It may not be very cut-and-dry, but she was definitely raped :s