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8 percent approval on Rotten Tomatoes? You gotta be kidding me...


I decided to glance at RT and couldn't believe how badly reviewed this film was. I knew it had gotten bad reviews but not that many bad reviews.

Personally, I think this is a great film, poetic, haunting, and quite moving. I liked it more than Gettysburg. The performances are much better here (especially Duvall as Lee and Stephen Lang as Jackson), and it's not pompous in the least (that was the critics favorite word when dismissing the film).

Perhaps it's non-PC attitude towards the South and the war is what set them off.

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Most of anything having to do with Hollywood (including reviewers) is decidedly left-wing. And the left doesn't like this movie.

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The non-PC, complex rendering of the Civil War was a major factor (I believe) in the overwhelmingly negative reviews. It's BS, because the film is really special. The critics seemed more concerned with their political agenda, and didn't bother watching the movie.

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Or perhaps it really is not a great movie. And anyone who was a fan of the book would be justified in hating the movie.

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Or perhaps it really is not a great movie. And anyone who was a fan of the book would be justified in hating the movie.
^^^ I was disappointed in the movie after having read the book. Mainly I couldn't believe the parts the chose to include at the expense of the battle footage. It was just a very slow movie that was hard to pay complete attention to.

Its disappointing too because they filmed a lot of that within 10 miles of my house. It was a big deal around here for awhile. We went up and watched them film some of the battle scenes. When they had the premiere at the Apollo (yes, yet another theater named the Apollo) in town it took the place over for a weekend. All the stars showed up and it looked like Hollywood on High St for a night. All the buffs I know were drooling for this film to come out.

I really had high hopes, and then to see the result after knowing what they had to work with I just had to scratch my head and wonder what they were thinking. The slow scenes were just too slow and it never seemed to take off. That's why I'm looking forward to the DC.

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It's got nothing to do with PC. It's just not a coherent film.

It has some great "moments" - like the opposing soldiers trading stuff in the middle of the river - but it lacks focus and tightness. Maxwell tried to do too much, combining two books but not combining them well. He should have made one film concentrating on Jackson and another based on the book "Gods and Generals."

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The movie sucked, that's why it got bad reviews.

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It's not a great movie but I have to say it's not 8% bad. Maybe around 30-40% bad

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I probably would have given this film a fresh, but I will concede that probably about 80% percent of that has to do with the fact that I am a Civil War buff and viewed it with unbiased eyes. I understand why reviewers did not like the film. To know very little of something, and then to see a film dramatizing it in a way that is completely counter-intuitive to how they learned it, is probably a turnoff. The fact that the Confederate flag is about as abhorred as the Nazi swastika evidences this. It's ignorance, but I don't fault the critics for being ignorant. They are paid to review movies, not to research history and then review movies.

And admit, there are problems with the film itself. Plenty of the dialogue is wooden. I didn't find the subplot with Jackson's little friend interesting. In many ways I found it cringe-inducing. Much of the acting is subpar (in the case of the stars it isn't. Lang was magnificent, and Daniels and Duvall were both very good.), which I think could be blamed on the script's shortcomings. The music is alright, but I think a lot of us had come to expect much, much better than "alright" from Randy Edelman after Gettysburg. I've heard the excuse for the omission of Antietam, but I'm sorry, you've got to find a way to work it in.

But the battle scenes were done well, Chancellorsville in particular. The film's production values have never really been anyone's complaint; I mean, from a technical standpoint it's a well-made movie. The battlefield silence after Fredericksburg was awesome. The Irish vs. Irish and tobacco-for-coffee exchange scenes were splendid. The ending was done as well as it possibly could have been. The main problem most people had was the "slant," the "slant" being the shocking, shocking I say portrayal of Southerners as mainly good people.

I'd probably give it a 3.5 out of 5 a critic, maybe a light 4. Not without flaws, and, I'm sorry, not even close to Gettysburg. But a well-done film with a "controversial" bend.

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What's also odd is that Gods & Generals has 8% while Gettyburg has 88%. Something about that number 8...

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CRITICS: "This film was nothing but a bunch of Confederate propaganda."

ME: "I believe you're mistaken. You just watched Gods and Generals, not Gone with the Wind!"



How do you like that piece of satire?

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If you say Gods an Generals was Confederate propaganda, you could easily say Glory and Gettysburg were Union propaganda.

Beautiful film in my humble opinion. Of course its historical accuracy is always up for debate, as all history is.

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