Glad the north won


For ethnic and moral reasons i'm glad the Union won but I got a lot of sympathy and respect for the south and for that I kept rooting for the Confederates!

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I don't think anyone can argue that it was for the greater good the North ultimately won. A united America was necessary to defeat Hitler and help the Jews return to Israel. Lee and Jackson would have been amazed if they knew God's plan.

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Alternate history epic by Harry Turtledove, in 11 books set in a permanently divided North America (history diverges in September 1862), story structure and character treatment similar to Game of Thrones:

How Few Remain
American Front
Walk in Hell
Breakthroughs
Blood and Iron
Center Cannot Hold
Victorious Opposition
Return Engagement
Drive to the East
Grapple
In at the Death

There is a dramatic irony in this series where after the South won, American history sucks (and Canada gets royally screwed up the arse as collateral damage), but the history of the rest of the world is much more peaceful and satisfying than in our history, all because there wasn't a united America mucking about in international affairs.

The series seems to be saying that the real-life America's participation in various world wars from 1898 onward hurt rather than helped the world in general.

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The series seems to be saying that the real-life America's participation in various world wars from 1898 onward hurt rather than helped the world in general.


in other words,it's a predetermined Left-accented conclusion in search of evidence..

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"help the jews return to israel" why out of all the things that have come off the USofA being a great power in the 20th century single out that particular thing?
I mean its pretty insignificant compared to other real achievements.

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"help the jews return to israel" why out of all the things that have come off the USofA being a great power in the 20th century single out that particular thing?


Nor is there even very much historical truth to back up the claim to begin with. During WWI, Great Britain issued a proclamation mind you, not a treaty or agreement, but the Balfour Proclamation (1917), which was a desperate war-time decision which it was hoped would generate pro-Allied support from Jewish business and banking interests around the world. Remember that at this point in time, Jews were linked in people's minds with being pro-German.

Anyway, if any country is responsible for helping Jews 'return to Israel' in the 20th century, it should be Great Britain that gets first mention and then probably Nazi Germany for making life so miserable for their Jewish citizens before the war.

Plus we shouldn't forget that at its birth, Israel was thought by the USSR to be a country with the potential for becoming a socialist nation as well as anti-British. Which is why the Soviet Union was first to recognize Israel diplomatically.

Neither of those expectations came true though. Which doesn't lessen in any way the role played by nations other than the US.

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Clearly that poster is one of those Christian Teapublicans who has a naive sense of Judeo-Christian solidarity with Jews and Israel. Fox News and talking heads such as Glenn Beck preach this religion-driven Israel First philosophy very often. Jews, tending to be more pragmatic and intellectual, generally do not communicate like that.

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