The World Warrior was....


Ryu. He was boss. No contest. He had it all. Once I had my opponent in the corner it was hurricane kick time baby!

Even when you finished the game with him he didn't even stay for the trophy... my main man !

Any contenders?

Oh and how much did M. Bison cheat?

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Capcom have never said who officially won the second World Warrior Tournament in Street Fighter II, it's really just been left a mystery. But the fighters considered to most likely have won it are Guile, Chun-Li or Cammy. All of the other fighters endings could've easily occurred without them actually having defeated M. Bison. So those three are the ones most SFII fans point to as possible winners.

Anyway you wanna look at it though, it likely wasn't Ryu. It is widely believed that he lost to Ken in the tournament as Ken stated he wouldn't marry his girlfriend Eliza until he won a decisive victory over Ryu, and Ken & Eliza are married after Street Fighter II.

Ryu did win the first World Warrior Tournament defeating Sagat in the final match in the first Street Fighter though. So you can be happy about that.


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Your opinion or fact?

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Like i said, Capcom have never said who officially won the second World Warrior Tournament. It is a fact that most SF fans (who follow the official storyline) say/believe it was either Guile, Chun-Li or Cammy who won based on the storyline Capcom has given us. The rest of the characters endings really could've just easily have happened without them ever actually confronting and fighting/beating M. Bison. It's a fact that that is the belief of most SF fans, but again, Capcom have never officially stated who actually won.

The same goes for whether Ken beat Ryu in the second World Warrior Tournament. It's a fact that based on the actual storyline Capcom have given us, that SF fans do believe Ken beat Ryu during Street Fighter II. Capcom have never officially stated it though. But the sotryline goes: Ken said he wouldn't marry Eliza until he won a decisive victory over Ryu, and as of Street Fighter III, Ken and Eliza are married and have a son named Mel. So that fact leads SF fans to believe that Ken did beat Ryu in the second World Warrior Tournament, but again, Capcom have never officially stated it themselves.

I mean, if you wanna think Ryu won, then that's fine. Capcom haven't stated who the winner is, so i suppose in general anyone can point to any Street Fighter II character they want as the winner. But if you know the official storyline, then you know why most SF fans believe the things i stated above. Capcom may have not stated an official winner, but they haven't totally left us in the dark about who it might've been either...

I suppose the only official outcome of Street Fighter II is that in the end, Akuma jumped into M. Bison's arena and killed him with a Shun Goku Satsu. Akuma wasn't a participant in the tournament though.

Also, the last thing i said in my last post about Ryu winning the first World Warrior Tournament defeating Sagat in the final match in the first Street Fighter is a fact. That's also how Sagat got the big scar on his chest. Ryu struk him with a nearly-fatal Metsu Shoryuken which knocked him unconscious and leaving his chest scarred. And so, that's how Ryu won the first World Warrior Tournament.


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Wait, wait, wait! Akuma appears in Street Fighter II!? How? You must tell me.

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Yeah HypermanX, Akuma was a secret boss/playable character in the 5th version of SFII, "Super Street Fighter II Turbo", which was released in 1994.

Play through one player mode with any character and get at least three perfects and don't lose, because you won't fight him if you use any continues. You'll know you'll be fighting Akuma if the picture box where Bison's portrait should be is left black. Then right before round 1 Akuma will jump in front of Bison,the screen will fade to white, and you'll hear the sounds of and see little stars where Akuma is beating Bison. Then the screen will return to normal, revealing Akuma standing over the beaten body of M. Bison laying on the ground and the fight will begin.

If you want to play as Akuma, highlight the following characters in order for about one second each: Ryu, T. Hawk, Guile, Cammy, Ryu. Then, press Start and within one second press all three Punch buttons simultaneously. It's hard to get to work sometimes, but do it right and you'll be playing as Akuma.

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But the fighters considered to most likely have won it are Guile, Chun-Li or Cammy. All of the other fighters endings could've easily occurred without them actually having defeated M. Bison.


It's always funny to see how people parrot the arguments from the plot guide without ever thinking about them themselves.
Admit it: You only use this whole "Guile's ending is the only one that requires him to defeat Bison, the others could have happened either way" argument because you read it somewhere. You would have never made this connection yourself.

Tell me, how can the following ending happen without Ryu defeating M. Bison:

[Bison and Sagat standing on the winners' podium with place one being empty.]
"As the award ceremony begins, the crowd can be heard whispering: "Where is the champion? Where is Ryu?" Where is Ryu as his admirers chant his name? Already seeking the next challenge, ceremony means nothing to him. The fight is all."
www.vgmuseum.com/end/arcade/a/streetryu.htm
www.vgmuseum.com/end/arcade/b/ssf2tryu.htm

How does this ending not require Ryu to win the tournament?
Same with Dhalsim: His ending can only happen if he wins the tournament since it also shows him on that podium.
And if Guile's ending requires him to defeat Bison personally, doesn't the same count for T. Hawk?


Anyway you wanna look at it though, it likely wasn't Ryu. It is widely believed that he lost to Ken in the tournament as Ken stated he wouldn't marry his girlfriend Eliza until he won a decisive victory over Ryu, and Ken & Eliza are married after Street Fighter II.


*beep* statement that was made up by the creators of that plot guide. There is no source whatsoever where it's said that Ken won't marry Eliza unless he has a victory over Ryu. This source does not exist.


And by the way: Yes, Ryu is the canon winner of "Street Fighter II". If you don't believe me, have a look at my essay:
www.denny-r-walter.de/sf2-winner.html

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