Is Turner Evil or just doing his job?
He´s very hard! Some thinks he´s "evil" and some says he´s just doing he´s job. What do you think?
shareHe's doing his job.
I mean, you have to be realistic here. Not all, but alot of mentally handicapped people will not be able to raise a child properly. They barely can manage their own basic needs, so needless to say they will, most of the time, not manage to give their child basic needs, or even advanced needs.
I'm not for seperating families like that, at all. And sure it's all sad for both the parents and the child, but in who's interest are you doing this? Imo for the child.
And ofcourse, if I was in that position, I would fight it aswell to keep my child around me, but as a logical thinking person, I do understand the point Turner has.
But the end of the movie indicated that Sam and the foster mother agreed to compromise in court. The conclusion implied that they would compromise and agree to some kind of arrangement such as that mentioned by Sam's lawyer earlier, with the foster parents having custody and Sam having extensive visiting rights. Or some kind of joint custody.
shareI don't think that he's evil, but I do think that he was being extremely uncompassionate towards Sam. When he was questioning Sam, at times it almost seemed like he was attacking him, not questioning him.
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I wouldn't say evil, and certainly not much harsher than any attorney in court. That's what they do. They break you down and dig up dirt on you or manipulate you into answering in a way that makes you contradict yourself or lose credibility.
I think that mostly it's nothing personal, they are just doing their job. The other side will always come up with whatever tricks they can to win the jury or judge over. Rita did it too to some extent (probably has done it a million times) , remember she got that lady from the social services to cry by when she brought up the fact that her son had OD'd.
For a lot of people it is hard to understand how Turner could be so harsh, but that's part of the job. Setting your feelings aside and focusing on winning your case. I can't say I like the system, but this is what it has turned into.
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He raised her for 7 years. It's not as if they're taking the infant away from him. They are taking away his daughter, who he has raised since she was a baby. She's clearly smart and caring. I honestly cannot say that I agree with Turner. It wouldn't have been in the best interest of Lucy to keep her away from Sam. Turner's comment about Annie's father was also pretty irrelevant, in terms of him using it against Sam. It doesn't hurt Sam's case imo. Annie states that Lucy will feel empty without her dad and clearly that is somewhat true in Annie's case. She is smart and obviously a nice person, however she's an agoraphobic. We know that her father abused her obviously, and that's left her empty in someway. She isn't "normal", whatever that means, and it's safe to say that the main cause of her anxiety is her father's mistreatment of her. She should have been a prime example of why Lucy needed her father.
Ugh. I don't even understand why they took Lucy in the first place. If her dad had been of normal intelligence, they wouldn't have taken her simply because she ran away. Also, the only reason they really gave for taking her was because of Sam's lack of intelligence. There are parents, who are IDIOTS and who can barely take care of their child yet no one takes their children away. My mom had a student who was so incredibly bright, yet her mother was not very smart and the girl practically had to raise herself and her mother. I know for a fact that Sam is a better father to Lucy than that woman was to her daughter. She couldn't even make her breakfast, or she just wouldn't.
In my personal opinion, they were hurting Lucy. They were hurting Sam. The only good that came out of that whole ordeal was that Rita finally began to truly appreciate her son. Sorry, I know I've written...a lot. Whenever I watch this movie I get so upset and just annoyed. Social services seem to take children who don't need to be taken from their families more often than the ones who are seriously in danger due to "lack of evidence" or some other crap.
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Cellardoor65, I couldn't have said that better myself.
The fact that he raised this girl for 7 years is pretty impressive for a mentally disabled father.
There are clearly a lot of capabilities Sam has, like keeping Lucy happy emotionally.
But love and happiness isn't everything you need to raise a kid, and with his disability, it will be hard for him to find a stable or well paying job to support Lucy. Compared to the factors I listed above.. intelligence, which is what Turner's so hung up on is not nearly as important at her age. Father's aren't necessarily supposed to be tutors. And having a parent help you with your homework is fine, but by Sam actually being dumber than Lucy and Lucy helping Sam read, already shows that Lucy is bound to be successful, is generally smart and self motivated and doesn't need Sam's help in academics. All she needs is love haha.
Turner is bitter and gets a bit too personal with Annie. But he never has that conceited look on his face like hes proud of it. He seems miserable with his job, which is maybe why he gets so excited to be a dick and insult and humiliate people. I don't think he's evil, but just has some deep insecurity issues and a bitter attitude about life, parenting and other deep family issues that affect his personality. So basically I don't think hes trying to screw everyone else over, but just trying to win to feel better..but he has to screw everyone else over to do that.
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