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Four out of five [souls] ain't bad...


As a die-hard Hellraiser fan and someone who can appreciate all the films (even the later ones), I've found one major loophole in this film that I can't explain no matter how many times I watch it. Maybe someone can find the logic in this...

Kirsty promises Pinhead five souls in exchange for saving her own (and all of this before the accident, of course). Four of them make perfect sense. Trevor cheated on her with his boss and lusted after the neighbor; Kirsty probably had some inkling of this when she made the pact. His shady co-worker's suicide made enough sense, and Trevor's own death requires no explanation. What doesn't make sense to me is Sage's murder. Trevor didn't start seeing her until pain from the "accident" required him to do so--by which time he's actually dead. So Trevor never cheated on Kirsty with her in the real world, and there is no evidence that she existed anywhere outside of Trevor's own personal hell. So how could she logically be one of Kirsty's five chosen victims?

I think I'm typing myself in circles here, but an insightful theory would be much appreciated (and no, that doesn't mean negative commentary like, "Because the movie sucks and there is not plot...").

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Simple.

He DID see her before. Remember his minds being messd with, reality and fiction are being blurred. The obvious answer is that he DID know Sage in reality and had an affair with her. Probably knew her through his friend. But when the Cenobites in Hell operated on his mind (I'm convinced the opening surgeyr scene IS happening, just with cenobites rather than the people he see's) he forgot about her and in the delusion created he believed he was only just meeting her. Afteall, he believed he was true to Kirsty and a "good" man.

- Scarecrow

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I really hated that ending. Kirsty going evil and sending 5 people to hell to save her own skin... it's just wrong. I SO wanted to see Pinhead rip that little @#$% apart, and it didn't happen.

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Well, Pinhead and Kirsty do have this odd "romantic" thing going on, but to me, it wouldn't make sense if he did rip her soul apart.

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