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Stallone's deft as Rocky in the Q&A ring
By Michael Booth
Denver Post Staff Writer
Article Last Updated: 12/16/2006 12:27:21 PM MST

Facing the barbs of the insatiable media, Sylvester Stallone is as gracious and imperturbable in answering all questions as Rocky was deflecting the insults of classless opponents.

With the sixth Rocky movie arriving in theaters Wednesday, Stallone at 60 knows full well many critics label him a one-note writer and actor.

No one will cry for Stallone, with his millions in crafty percentage deals, but he can be called a victim of his own success: Thirty years ago, he wrote and starred in one of the iconic American movies, and as Stallone put it in an interview here, "therein lies a dilemma."

One career direction means "you fall back on something you know the audience wants to see, but it's not going to break any new ground or gain any new respect from your peers. Next thing you know, it will be 'Cobra 3.' That is a real problem," Stallone said, in Denver to publicize "Rocky Balboa."

"Or is it that you're so locked into the 'Rocky' persona, that anything other than that is going to be a disappointment, a letdown. That happened in a real good film like 'F.I.S.T.' There's an expectation. That's human nature," he said.

In other interviews, Stallone has spoken nostalgically of the 1976 "Rocky" as "setting the bar too high." His first major role, his first finished script, and the film was the year's top box office draw, won the best-picture Oscar, and garnered acting and writing nominations for Stallone.

With "Rocky Balboa" putting the aging Philly fighter seemingly irretrievably into retirement (yes, again), Stallone said he's ready to put the Italian Stallion's saga behind him.

"If this film reaches the audience the way I hope it does, and I had a chance to never act again and just direct, I'd take that in a second," said Stallone, looking appropriately middle-aged yet fairly buff in blue jeans and an open-necked shirt.

"Rocky Balboa" finds Adrian dead and Rocky wandering his old haunts in Philly, running a restaurant and reminiscing to excess. Then ESPN pits champion-era Rocky against current champ Maxon "The Line" Dixon (Antonio Tarver) in a simulation. Rocky wins, and the miffed Dixon challenges long-retired Rocky to an exhibition.

While the movie is no revelation, it revives a beloved character that Stallone plays well. Rocky is part of the collective American consciousness of perseverance and decency, whether real or imagined. There is something sweet and appropriate in watching both Stallone and Rocky contemplate aging and making their later years useful.

And the truth-myth of how "Rocky" got made only adds to the movie's place in popular culture. Stallone was a small-part actor struggling to break through who began writing scripts with parts to suit his ambition. He'd knocked around the Philadelphia docks and gyms, getting to know people with severe "lack of expectations," he said.

Hollywood producers loved the script and said they'd buy it. Stallone refused to sell unless he could play Rocky. David Thomson's "New Biographical Dictionary of Film" tells it this way: "Instead of taking $265,000 for it from Robert Chartoff and Irwin Winkler, he held out for $75,000, a percentage and the lead part."

Fifty-six million dollars later, "Rocky" won the box office that year over runner-up "A Star is Born," at $37 million.

Asked why he thinks people love the Rocky character, Stallone said it has little to do with sports and victories.

"Rocky is about abandonment. He had no parents, never did. He literally is a waif of the streets. He's America's waif. He gathers these other broken people and they create a family unit," Stallone said, a theme he continued in writing the script for "Rocky Balboa."

Then, once Rocky begins to see some success, he acts in a way that people admire, but which they don't see often in their real-life leaders in sports, politics or business.

"Rocky considers himself better than no one. He's not judgmental. He's just a sweet guy. He'll accept your insults and still reach out and try to embrace you. Those are real Christian ideals," Stallone said.

Stallone acknowledges he also has considered making another "Rambo" picture, the money-dangles from producers too lucrative to ignore. But his better self pushes him to spots behind the cameras for the remainder of his career.

"I would like to spend it in writing and directing, less in the public eye but providing something for the public."

So what is the Stallone Surprise, the project he's always wanted to write or direct?

For years Stallone's wanted to create an epic, and the book that intrigues him is Franz Werfel's "The Forty Days of Musa Dagh," detailing the Turkish genocide of its Armenian community in 1915. (After futile attempts to turn the novel into a movie, filmmakers finally succeeded in 1982, but it was a low-profile production.)

French ships eventually rescued some Armenians, and Stallone has his favorite scene memorized: "The French ships come, and they've dropped the ladders and everybody has climbed up the side. The ships sail. The hero, the one who set up the rescue, has fallen asleep, exhausted, behind a rock on the slope above. The camera pulls back, and the ships and the sea are on one side, and there's one lonely figure at the top of the mountain, and the Turks are coming up the mountain by the thousands on the far side."

A pretty great shot.

The movie would be "an epic about the complete destruction of a civilization," Stallone said. Then he laughed at the ambition. "Talk about a political hot potato. The Turks have been killing that subject for 85 years."
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I bet that if Ersoy replies to your post, he will accuse Stallone of having a political agenda as well...

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I bet that if Ersoy replies to your post, he will accuse Stallone of having a political agenda as well...
Oh, I hope not.

I wonder where he is. Hopefully, he's trying to enjoy life in these hard times around the world, as are most of us. :)

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Not at all. I'm here. Life is a joy in Turkish Mediterranean anyway. Believe it or not ancient pop group "Smokie" was here for a concert. You know, "Who f... the alice" song. They are alive and still sound great...

Thanks anyway. It's nice to be missed...

Once again neither me nor Turkey denies that a lot of Armenians have lost their lives during 1914-1920 period. Sad thinks happened. Point is: firstly; your side was far from being totally innocent and unarmed, because they killed hundreds of thousands of Turks too, they had armies, your people and armies have backed Russians and acted with Russian Army against Ottoman Army during WW1. Secondly; your side started the massacres to push Turks from Northeastern Anatolia. But they could not finish the dirty job. Every country has the right of defending it's is territories. That is a given.

On the other hand, tragedies are good opportunities for cheap movies...

Q:How come you three have started posting at the very same hour after a long week.
A: You are all the same person.

I wish you all a happy holiday, Merry Christmas and a happy new year. I hope new year will bring more peace and understanding to our nations...

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ersoy-2: Q:How come you three have started posting at the very same hour after a long week.
A: You are all the same person.
You three? Which three? In any event, you sure do know how to disappoint a person. Please, take a look at my posting history before you even consider making such an accusation. I am VarlOatesIII; but even if I were the other fellow as well (and you know that I'm not), what difference would it make? He didn't post anything offensive.

Peace and understanding to you as well, Ersoy. Peace and understanding. :)

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"Peace and understanding to you as well, Ersoy. Peace and understanding. :)"

Unlike most of Armenians and other anti Turkish mob posting here, I have never (and great majority of other Turks) expressed feelings such as "All Armenians should be killed, they should be wiped off from the earth etc.Instead I have been repeating that I was sorry for the Anatolian people who have lost their lives in 1910's. Both Armenians and Turks...".

In contrary, you guys have always been denying that Armenians have killed hundreds of thousands of Turks too, in most brutal ways.And keep talking about the necessity of exterminating all Turks!...

Therefore your side needs understanding more than I do.

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You and the others can only annoy us. You have been and will continue to be our constant headache. Nothing else. Just a tension headache. Not a gliocytoma, a cerebrovascular accident or an astrocytoma,especially not a glioblastoma at all...:))

Armenian issue is just another toy of western powers to be used in manuplating,destabilizing and controlling Turkey. They need us alive yet needy. Thats why they have been supporting you guys. Whenever they feel like we are standing up on our feet they immediately look for finding something to shoot us down. Armenian issue is just one of those things. Believe me, none of them will die in order to satisfy your blind hate...In fact, none of you Armenians would either. If you are so nationalist you should go and try to help your country which is Armenia. Instead of enjoying life in US or France. You should know that they will never get interested in fighting with my country, Firstly:We do not have any drop of oil other than gas stations (Most of them Shell and BP anyway) Secondly: As history have shown continuously, Turks are a nation with huge balls.... Believe me they will be interested in only oil fields for several next decades nothing else.

Thats why your army is in Iraq.Thats why they still need and will be in need of Turkey in the future...

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I agree, but the issue is real and everything is taken seriously when countries meet. When your government makes threats, bribes, it doesn't look good. It's not the actions of a honest government.
Our issue is being put on the table. While previously, movies like Ararat would be blocked, now are free to be shown.

Times change. We will do everything possible to make the world understand that your government is attempting to hide the genocide behind WW1 issues.

Thumbs up to Stallone. I hope he makes a very detailed movie.

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Don't be surprised when the tide will turn- you may see that Turkey is going against the US

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20061222/pl_afp/turkeyuskurdsunrest_061222161010

"There could be a "parting of ways" if the United States rejects measures that Turkey believes should be in place against the rebels, Baser said."

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That I find ironic. The Yanks have armed the Turks to their teeth, providing them with latest military equipment up until now and then they are supposed to let Turkey become a potential threat to them?? No way. Americans want to keep their only "ally" in the Middle East. And the Turkish government doesn't dare to turn against Bush and his bloodhounds. What the public opinion thinks makes no importance in this matter. And of course, there is NATO. The very fact that they let TURKEY join the NATO is the proof of how bad the US need and want their foothold in the east. Despite their serious differences and burning hatred they share with Greeks, who were NATO members before Turkey, Americans just HAD to make the Turks their allies. And now, haha, it makes me laugh in a cynical way, Turkey has the second largest army in the NATO! At least according to wikipedia...

God, tell me, how did you let this happen??!!

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"Every country has the right of defending it's is territories. That is a given"

Precisely, Ersoy. Armenians have a right to defend THEIR land, formerly Armenia (not the land that Turks claim is theirs).

Your ridiculous argument about Armenians killing hundreds of thousands of Turks is unnecessary. We've heard it before, and it doesn't become more believable each time you repeat it. The only thing you're doing is trying to justify what your ancestors did to the Armenians, which makes you look pretty pathetic. Just keep that in mind.

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Turkish organizations protest against film star Sylvester Stallone

EasternStar News Agency

Turkish lobby groups protest against the American film star Sylvester Stallone, who will take part in and produce a film based on Franz Werfel’s ”The 40 days at Musa Dagh”.

The Turkish lobby group ”Association on struggle against Armenian Genocide acknowledgement” with its leader Egilmez emphasizes that:

”Films are often used in propaganda and Armenians use this opportunity for their propaganda. The Austrian-Jewish author Franz Werfel wrote this novel in 1933. It is full of lies, since the author got his information from nationalist and radical Armenians… We have already sent necessary documents about the mentioned days to the producer of the film. Our allies will urge and pursue the producer to not produce this film”.

Despite the threats and accusations against Sylvester Stallone, he has emphasized that his intentions are to direct a film based on the heroic defence of Musa Dagh in 1915. The film is based on the book ”The 40 days at Musa Dagh”.

The producers were surprised by the strong reactions from Turkish interests. They say that the film is based on a well documented true event. Above all it is a pity about the Turkish people, that it isn’t able to elect a modern government that can stop 85 years of denial of genocide.

http://assyriatimes.com/engine/modules/news/article.php?storyid=3267

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"The producers were surprised by the strong reactions from Turkish interests."

Oh, I think I can guess what they wrote in the letters.
France's ministers had received piles of "we'll kill you". Same thing here.

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