This is basically a Bad Movie

Could you actually give some evidence to back up your claim? I think that everything you said is just wrong. The actors did great, the story line is original, entertaining and, yes, convincing. And I'm pretty sure the dialogue was great.

I think *beep* just happens, but that's just me.

I didn't think it was that bad. At times it did come off Like Cool Hand Luke Meets the UCMJ, but on the whole, this was a good film.

I have some issues with how prisoners are treated in general, and this film was not any different. Now I am sure that there are very violent prison populations where some very severe measures have to be in place to control that population, but I not sure how realistic movie versions of prisons actually are.

Perhaps the portrayal of a military prison was unrealistic. I have no way of knowing. But the acting was uniformly good, all the way around. Maybe the plot wasn't that original, but it was handled well.

Maybe this was not one of the 10 best movies of all time, but I have certainly seen much worse in my time. This one came off as being rather entertaining.

u serious??

robert redford is one of the best actors ever!
and he's specially great in his movie!

and the story line... well, i really don't think this was an unconvincing one! ok, it was a little far-fetched, but com'on... it's a movie!

and bad dialogues?? sorry, i can't agree w/ you!

true: not one of the best movies ever made! but a nice movie nontheless!!

It was bad. For some reason I remembered the movie as being good, so I recently rented to watch again. I can't believe I ever liked it.

For one thing, the movie failed to make Col. Winters a bad guy. At the start of the movie, he is very respectful and, though tough, seems to care about the prison. He wants to maintain control, which is very reasonable as a prison warden. But then, the writers seemingly try to twist the character into a bad guy role by making him behave irrationally. He just decides to kill Aguilar for whatever reason. He decides to call in a heavy response to the hostage threat (which Gen. Wheeler doesn't appear to consider a big deal.)

Wheeler's character is especially unlikable, considering he automatically sides with a convicted criminal over his own men. What message does that send?

General Irwin's character is just the same as Winter's. He starts off likable enough but then, almost contradictory to his desire to just do his time and go home, he begins to instigate and stir up the inmates. It got to the point I really disliked the character.

Most the main characters are contrived and shallow.

Then it just gets stupid. Right under the noses of the guards the prisoners built a trebuchet? They stockpiled homemade rocket launchers and firebombs? Lol, wtf? They attempted to murder the guards and the warden with the projectiles and firebombs. Those prisoners would have been (should have been) shot dead in the courtyard.

This movie had a lot of potential. but it just failed in too many ways.

their worse movies out there, trust me.

This has been one of my favorite movie of all time. I can't believe how low the score is and how many haters there are. Yes, the prisoners act differently in this movie than others but this is in no way unrealistic just because you seen or been to one and been ass *beep* but not all prisons are like that. Or just because you like shawshank redemption movie much that you bash other prison movies like it, personally that movie didn't touch me like others (forgoten the story the next day i watched it) I just remembered that i watched it after reading the plot, i don't get the hype is all about. But you don't see me bashing shawshank redemtion, if you don't like this movie then its your opinion but other people like it like me.

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agree, very unconvincing story line with plenty of plot holes. However, it was entertaining so I was okay with ranking it 6