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VIN DIESEL.... THE WORST ACTOR IN FILM


The horror... the horror. "A Man Apart" is yet another example of the acting atrocity that is Vin Diesel. Here we see "Diesel" or Mark Vincent (his real name) try much too hard at pretending to be talented in a film that at best amounts to little more than an episode of "Hunter." This guy is quite simply the worst actor in Hollywood today.

For proof of Diesel's remarkably serendipitous foray into the film industry we should look no further than Steven Speilberg. About eight years ago Speilberg happened upon a short film at Sundance called "Multifacial," which was directed, written, produced and starring a man calling himself "Vin Diesel." The short was not only short on running time but also remarkably short on worth. The story goes something like this: super-talented but undiscovered muscle-clad wanna-be actor guy goes from one acting audition to the next, gets turned down, wallows in his utterly unconvincing pseudo-angst, wonders aloud how fate could be so cruel, then blames everything on the fact that he is bi-racial - a little too black, a little too white. Damn my mixed ethnicity!

So all throughout we see poor 'ole Vin attend a slew of auditions and get turned down - but not without a female casting agent following him out of the room to console him ('cause the ladies love Vin!), saying something to the effect of - "Hey... you were really great. And if it was up to me... you would have gotten the part." And on and on. Now... it's important to note that the aforementioned scenario occurs THREE times in the film, after each audition, with Diesel apparently unable to write a scenario reminiscent of girl-meets-boy porn. Again - Diesel himself wrote this film, directed it, and stars in it... and that three woman... THREE... actually come up to him after these auditions and give him the same schtick. Oh hail King Diesel! May your ego comfort us in times of pointless masturbatory self-importance!

There are so many other points to make about "Multifacial" but the main point in understanding the baffling rise of this witless jock is that Speilberg needed a "big guy" to fill a role for "Saving Private Ryan" and Diesel seemed fit. So there was his break... a small role in a huge film directed by an even bigger director. Stories have been confirmed that on the set of "Ryan," Diesel's drive to be a star was more than just innocent ambition. A story from Premiere magazine cites that so disturbing was Diesel's drive that one day, cast member Ed Burns found him scribbling down the names of actors who were working in the industry (including fellow cast member, Matt Damon). When Burns asked what he was doing, Diesel replied, "Just writing down how long it'll take me to surpass these guys as the biggest star." Apparently those who know Diesel will tell you that this is not such a big surprise.

His lack of talent aside, what makes Mark-Vincent-Diesel-Mark-Vin-Whatever the worst is that he so openly thinks that he is the best. What could be more ironic? Search me. What could be more hysterical? Not sure. Maybe the fact that Diesel demanded $30 million for the sequel to "The Fast and the Furious" BEFORE he had ever starred in "XXX," knowing fully that he had not even received top-billing for the first film (that went to Paul Walker). Or maybe the fact that when asked by an interviewer what kind of movie "XXX" (his first leading role) would be, Diesel responded smugly with, "It's a Vin Diesel movie." Or maybe it's that when on the set of "Reindeer Games," (only his SECOND film) he was FIRED by the late Academy Award-winning director John Frakenheimer for refusing to take off his shirt in a particular scene. Diesel was hired for a small role as one of the Vegas casino goons and approached Frankenheimer on his FIRST DAY of shooting to tell him that he felt his salary was much too low for him to bare his chest. It gets better... after Frankenheimer, in total disbelief, asked why he wouldn't take off his shirt, Diesel is said to have responded - "I only show these guns in Vin Diesel movies."

So there you go. Thanks to Spielberg and unthinking filmgoers the world over, a delusional, narcissistic, no-talent goon has now become a movie star. But it will all come crashing down soon. Like the Chinese proverb states, "Those who consider themselves as knowing it all have forgotten to know how to learn." The veil will soon be lifted and the rest of the world will see this guy for who he truly is... Mark Vincent. A guy with muscles.

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What is it about his acting exactly that bothers people so much? People constantly call him a terrible actor stating it as if it's obvious to everyone and needs no explanation, but I'm interested in knowing exactly what it is that people consider to be good acting and what criteria an actor \ actress must meet in order to be considered 'good'. Can anyone explain that?

Well, heh, if he's actually done all these things that are so "egotistical" (I remember reading them elsewhere as well, I'm not doubting the veracity of these anecdotes) and he's actually gotten to the point that he's at "despite" the behavior, then what's it really matter? I admit that it does seem a little arrogant out of context, but honestly, he really has gotten somewhere and he's definitely getting up there. For XXX2 isn't he being paid somewhere in the vicinity of $20m?

Oh, and a small correction, last I heard on Dark Horizons I believe it was, Arnold Schwarzenegger is earning $30 million for Terminator 3, which is a first. Incidental really, since I think the salary Vin requested probably predates Terminator 3, but saying that no one else has ever commanded a salary that high is incorrect.

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First of all, the interviews I cited are not all that I'm going on. These are true events that did occur and have been discussed by many in the industry. Diesel is absolutely abhored by many of his peers and I have heard some of those stories recounted by many that worked on the set of "Pitch Black" and another that worked on "Boiler Room." The man is a disgrace as a person and an actor. Second, the main problem (among soooo many... only one facial expression, one tone of voice, etc.) with his acting is that with every line Diesel utters, with every move he makes... you can FEEL him acting. In other words, everything he does is forced and therefore artificial. When someone has such an unabashedly huge ego, as Diesel does, they are never able to hide it on screen. The very nature of a huge ego is to be self-conscious, constantly aware of yourself and everything you do. Acting is the antithesis of this... it is the disappearance of self, the opposite of self-awareness. On one level, yes, an awareness should exist, but this should only be in the initial stages of creating a character. After that, the self is gone, it no longer exists.

Now, I'm speaking in terms of Method acting. Something Diesel is so far away from, but something he all the same considers as if he were capable of understanding it. He hilariously referred to it once in an interview when he talked about the great Method actors as if he were discussing a Raiders game. It's like... um... dude... you know you're just a guy with muscles who plays in friggin'... action movies, right? Vin Diesel is to Method acting what Larry Bird is to African-American Studies. Sometimes you just trip and fall (as Diesel did, please do not try and give him credit for "making it this far") and end up in a career that least suits you. Vin Diesel just SHOULDN'T be acting. Maybe a bouncer, an automechanic, maybe something like that would fit him better (he actually was a bouncer for years in NYC... big surprise).

The other thing is his voice. In all seriousness, I am convinced that he suffers from something more than just a speech impediment. It appears to be more delusions of gandeur coupled with one of the most annoying, grunting drawls I have ever had the displeasure of hearing, Now, don't give me that "it worked for Brando" jazz. Marlon Brando is the greatest actor in the history of cinema. His voice may have been strange, but he was able to disguise it when needed. He had, still has, what "actors" like Diesel do not... talent. Look at him in "Julius Ceasar" and " A Dry White Season..." not a trace of that nasal drawl, completely disguised. Brando could play any role, no matter how extreme. Watch him in "The Tea House of August Moon" where he plays a Chinese man. Not a trace of Marlon Brando, not a trace of self-consciousness.

The greatest actors are the ones who have no idea who they are. The great Peter Sellers once said, "I have never met Peter Sellers." And he's probably telling the truth. Vin Diesel knows all too much about who he is. And he always has. So in love with himself he is, that any possibility of him growing as an actor has been destroyed. In his mind, luck had nothing to do with his success. In his mind, this was supposed to have happen (again, he said this countless times in interviews). Well, if he's that good at reading the future, then he'll know that it will soon be coming to an end.

P.S. -- Diesel demanding $30 million to star in the sequel to "The Fast and the Furious" was the first time a supporting actor had ever done that. Ever. Diesel, at that point, had never been given the true lead in a film before other than "Pitch Black," where he still wasn't even the lead, really. But what's incredible is that "Pitch Black" made minimal returns at the box-office AND Diesel WAS NOT EVEN THE STAR of "The Fast and the Furious" AND "XXX" had not yet been released!!!! Schwartzenegger asked for that amount long after Diesel had, and you know why? Because he can. He is Arnold Schwartzenegger. Outside of lately, his films have made more money than Diesel will ever see. And the "Terminator" franchise is just that... a franchise. Gauranteed to make money. No questions asked. If I was Arnold, and I had heard that Diesel had demanded $30 million (oh, and that's the other thing... Diesel had DEMANDED that amount for "F&F2," which will explain why he won't be appearing in it), then I would have asked for $40 million at least. Just to put someone like Diesel in his place.

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Nicholas Cage is a fantastic actor. Anyone who is unable to see the greatness of his performance in "Adaptation" just doesn't understand the craft. Admittedly, he has done a terrible job in other films, but he is quite far from the worst actor of all time. "Inconsistant," is probably the best word to describe him. But look at his performances in "The Cotten Club," "Moonstruck," "Raising Arizona," "Leaving Las Vegas," "Bringing Out the Dead," and again, "Adaptation." These are all very effective performances, some even great, but if only he'd stop with all the garbage films he's been involved with. He's so much better than that. Oh, and so much better, infinitely better, than Vin Diesel.

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Dude... yes, he was decent in Face Off, but it's clearly time for you to watch some movies. Some real movies. Take any of the Nick Cage titles I mentioned above (none of which you have seen, I'm sure) and then get back to me. Thanks. Bub-bye.

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