Kissing in Indian movies


Just to start with, this is not a question about Richard Gere and the whole kissing incident. But I am confused about a one thing. I read in the trivia for "Bride and Prejudice" that there is to be no kissing in Indian movies. However, there is lot's of kissing that goes on in "Monsoon Wedding".

Was this movie a problem in India? It's such a good one, but seems to be at odds with what I understand about Indian culture. Granted, that's not a whole lot, but I have read several books about India and those who have lived in India. This is an honest inquiry for information, NOT a judgement on Indian vs US culture. Please only answers about what this might mean, please don't turn this into a debate.

Thanks in advance to anyone who responds!

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I think that Indian movies are either censored and/or no kissing has just been the convention. Indian society generally frowns on public displays of affection. Whatever their location and subject matter, Bride and Prejudice is a British movie made by a British director (of Indian background), and although Mira Nair is Indian she has lived in New York for a long time and makes movies in America. Neither would be subjected to Indian censorship rules although their movies would be edited when shown in India.

In addition to the kissing, which was probably edited out, this movie would have been a problem in India due to the inclusion of the child-molesting uncle. I don't know what they did when the movie was shown in India, but this would have been more trouble to remove without having parts of the story make no sense. I don't want to sound like I'm overally generalizing, but many Indians believe they are morally superior to the West and I'm sure many would refuse to believe those sorts of people exist in India.

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That's right, I had forgotton that "Bride and Prejudice" was actually a British movie. Thanks for your response. I'd like to see what people who have different views think about it. I was wondering how "Monsoon Wedding" went over in India, with what seemed to be very contriversial topics. I had heard before that Indian culture believes themselves to be superior and above other cultures (then again, show me a culture that doesn't). So I was wondering if the movie was so popular in America because it was a hit in India, or just one of those that translated more into the US culture?

Another thing I've been confused about is to hear that woman are not concidered important in Indian culture. Yet in this movie, they are very important, with the father protecting and loving not only his daughter, but his niece. The women in this movie seem to be in the same social standard and not lower class or unworthy. Is this a reflection of a new growing culture, or maybe an influence from other cultures?

Trying to ask topics without pushing any ideas of superiority, so let me know if I come across that way. The Anthropologist in me just wants to learn about any culture she can!

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Thank you! And your right, I don't think that all of Indian society is just one set of values or one way of living. Every country is very diverse and the cultures within it are not always represented. And it's usually the ones that yell the loudest that are heard from. It's always hard to get to know a culture unless you live there, and I've always been interested in Indian culture. I've tried to find as many different views as I can, and I know that relying on the entertainment field isn't always the best way. God knows, I'd love to live in the New York they show on "You've Got Mail".

Thank you for your answers, I've been wondering about these questions for a while now.

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Nair may make movies in America, but this one was shot in New Delhi. So apparently you can make movies in India which can not be shown there (at least in the form they were made (edited?)). So perhaps the censorship is even voluntary,
in that what could be shown is different than what is actually shown. Does anyone know if films are edited differently for different parts of India?

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Kissing is indeed something that was for a long time taboo to show in a movie. You may recall that in MONSOON WEDDING the kissing scenes were not done in public, but in private. This is because, as another poster said, Indian frown at the smallest form of intimacy, and that's why a huge part of the movie made from the 40s till the 90s did not contain any kissing scenes. But, as any other country, India is changing, and so are its films. I myself have grown up watching Hindi movies so I think I know what was considered normal and what not in movies, and based on that I think Hindi cinema has changed a lot especially in the last 10 years. Nowadays, many movies contain kissing scenes. I think it's safe to say that most movies contain them.

That's not to say that there was no eroticism in Hindi movies. There always have been in some way. :) But kissing was out of the order. Not anymore.

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I am a Britisher who has been watching nothing but Bollywood films for the past two months. I felt strangely shocked when I saw the kissing in Monsoon Wedding, because there is so little elsewhere. Mind you, I have been mostly watching Shar Rukh Kahn films, and he is personally against kissing on screen. I also recently watched 'Earth', in which there was intercourse, very discretely shot. I was surprised at that also, but then Deepa Mehta's films often court controversy, so maybe this was one of many other factors that people might have bridled at.

I'm beginning to find the lack of kissing, where the lips veer off at the last minute, to be actually more erotic than seeing the lips touch. It's very suggestive and the imagination is more powerful than the eyes.

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hi aynrand. well its important to put censorship and kissing in indian movies in some perspective. fact of the matter is that the indian censor board has been more or less reasonable when it comes to onscreen intimacy, i.e, kissing. apparently the 30s and 40s in india did see some amount of kissing, and then it all but disappeared. this, in addition to society, censorship bla bla, actually had more to do with the opinion that the public would hold about the actress doing the scene. the result was that most actresses for almost 60 years were too shy, embarrassed or reluctant to kiss on screen, to avoid being type-cast as bimbos or sex-pots. lots of leading ladies such as zeenat aman, mandakini, madhuri dixit (i hope youve heard of her) and gowthami (from the south) all had done some or lots of kissing early on in their careers. i guess they were easy to convince (by the directors) at that stage of their careers. their future successes meant that they became picky and could dictate terms as to what they would do and what they wouldnt. ALL THAT changed in 2004 with the arrival of possibly the boldest woman on Indian screen ever-Mallika Sherawat. In a water-shed movie which had close to 15 love scenes, she changed the face of actresses in Indian cinema. now everyone in bollywood and the other indian film industries, does it relatively frequently and without hassles. so..bottomline, censorship and public opinion in the 'family-morality' sense, was hardly ever in play. as for indian society, yeah PDA has always been frowned upon especially in rural india. heck, it seems lots of married couples who are poor and those who live in villages, joint families and/or shanty towns, hardly see their spouses naked, EVER, in their entire married lives. as you can see, morality is a tiiiiiiny % of so many other factors. of course..thankfully..its all changing. btw..leading ladies have shown breasts and nipples (though thru wet clothing ;) of course) in indian movies before as well. hope this helps.
ciao.

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