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Am I missing something?


ok from what i understand... dad has a vision, god tells him to slay demons with his children... fenton doesn't believe him, so conveniently god now says that fenton is a demon b/c he is scared of his father who he believes is murdering people... but dad doesnt want to kill his son so as punishment god kills dad via fenton.... how does that work? was god also using fenton who is supposed to be a demon as a tool, i feel like that is ironic somehow... also later on in the movie we find out that fenton starts to murder people to lure adam to him, so wtf... apparently all the demons in the movie are murderers but the only reason fenton murdererd people was to lure adam to him and as a result of his childhood... i feel like god really failed at being god and this was a terrible movie... it had so much potential but.... when it is revealed that adam and the father did infact have supernatural powers i was like durr thats dumb... and why deceive the audience just for the shock value... that served no purpose what so ever... when going into a movie at the very beginning it is nice to know under which rules the movier operates under... having the audience believe that one set of rules are in place then completely change them at the end is infuriating...

wow, that was more of a rant than a coherent thought... sorry

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To the people who didn't like the ending, I agree with you on one thing. It started out as a straight-forward flick. Actually I was starting to get slightly bored. But the ending was awesome!

Why would anyone want this to be your standard flick? I know you don't want to encourage religious nuts. But hey, in this one special case, it really was God directing them to kill demons. Deal with it LOL.

By the way, it turns out Fenton really was a demon too.

Unless you're extremely anti-religious or something, I don't know why anyone would be so infuriated with the ending. To me it made the whole thing worthwhile. With a standard ending this movie would be nothing special.

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I wouldn't call myself anti-religious exactly, but I am very much an Atheist, and generally avoid films and books with religious overtones, simply because I don't enjoy them.

However, even I didn't mind the twist to Frailty. It's not a terrific film, in my opinion, but it's a decent one, and though I'd usually be put off by religion playing much of a part in a plot, I didn't find it ruined the movie, no.

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I thought they just killed demons like to be hungry and to eat or to be near to chair and to sit down. I don't know why the movie ended in such whimsical way.

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My interpretation of it was that dad and Adam had the visions and Fenton did not. After certain actions by Fenton rebelling against killing these "demons" there was no action taken because Fentons actions were spurred by misunderstanding and the belief God says killing is wrong. He had in his heart good intentions and really believed he was doing the right thing. The vision then warned his father that Fenton would become one. The father then has to kill the sheriff to avoid getting caught because of Fenton. Abraham in the Bible had all sorts of problems having a child. Once they did they basically loved him more than anything. God tested his faith by asking him to sacrifice his son to test his love and faith in God over all else. He stopped Abraham once he saw that though it broke his heart he was willing to put God before the most precious thing in his life. For this God rewarded him. Now because he did not kill Fenton he put his love of his son before Gods will and then murdered an innocent man. Because of that he had to pay a price. He couldn't go on killing considering he to had taken innocent life. When Fenton killed his father he made an active choice to murder out of hate because of the trauma of seeing the murders, having to dig the graves, the cellar, and then being locked in it with no food and very little water until he lied and faked the vision. Once his father let him out the die was cast. Fenton wasn't trying to save the man on the floor his intention was to kill his father all along. Once Fenton swung the axe and killed his father he made his choice. When Adam whispered with his dad and then killed the man in front of Fenton he realized it was the reality in their world and he had just picked a side. Had it been about saving people or doing the right thing then Fenton would not have buried the man and his dad and then reported their dad missing. He would have went and told everyone the truth in order to do the right thing for the victims and their families. The reason he didn't is in that moment he finally believed that these people were in fact demons or possessed or whatever. They were put on the list because they were beyond redemption. He knew by lying about a vision he never had, planning to and then killing his father he too was now beyond redemption. That is why he asked Adam who had been tapped to take the fathers place to bury him in the garden after he killed him. I think Fentons other murders were either him stalking people who were bad and "destroying" them as some sort of atonement even though he never had a vision, was fueled by all that he went through while with his father, or to some extent always there under the surface and it was just triggered sooner rather than later by all the insanity of the list/visions/mission. I mean the little wacko kept skiulls in his basement. I think maybe he wrote the God Hands letter because he couldn't stop killing and knew they would attract Adam's attention and God would either provoke Adam into action or earn him a spot on Adams list. That was why he was drinking, typing his last letter, and listing to gospel music at the end.

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movie breaks down at the end, i don't know why they insist on having a twist in these type of movies, it was fine as it was

still i enjoyed it though







so many movies, so little time

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