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The cinema of insistent questions...


"My films are intended as polemical statements against the American 'barrel down' cinema and its dis-empowerment of the spectator. They are an appeal for a cinema of insistent questions instead of false (because too quick) answers, for clarifying distance in place of violating closeness, for provocation and dialogue instead of consumption and consensus."
-- Heneke, From "Film as catharsis"

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In other words. My films make you think. I do them that way as a protest against the popular, mindless American drivel.

Well hey, I like my popular, mindless American drivel. I also like my thoughtful and thought provoking drivel. I like movies, sometimes I want movies that make me think. Sometimes I want movies that are fun but when I think about them later I find surprising depth. And sometimes I want mindless drivel that requires me to leave my brain outside, and is completely out of my memory before the end credits even start rolling.

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I know what you mean Kantvelink but I still think Haneke's approach is absolutely crucial in the day of mass produced popcorn cinema.

We might want to leave our brains at the door now and again but sometimes it's good to use it now and again! And obviously, some like to use their brains more than others. So thank god for Haneke.

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Very, very true! We must thank God for Haneke. Whilst other filmmakers are discussing foreign planets & tall blue creatures Haneke tackles the repressed facets of existence that must & should be examined.

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Early on, she mentions a book about Schumann that discusses his reactions to his 'dawning' insanity. What was the name of that book?

Great parallel between the mother of the student she mutilates and her own mother.
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I believe it was the essay "Schubert", written in 1928 by Theodor W. Adorno (who was twenty-five at the time).

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Well, then, in those times you want the mindless drivel, don't choose a Haneke movie. Easy.

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Yeah all films are made for different reasons.





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His obsessions with sex and violence are endlessly fascinating. I didn't think much of White Ribbon though, maybe I need to be German to get it.

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Speaking of questions... anyone care to explain what happened in this movie for me?

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"My films are intended as polemical statements against the American 'barrel down' cinema and its dis-empowerment of the spectator. They are an appeal for a cinema of insistent questions instead of false (because too quick) answers, for clarifying distance in place of violating closeness, for provocation and dialogue instead of consumption and consensus."
-- Heneke, From "Film as catharsis"

In other words, typical Euro-psuedo-intellectual bulls&@!# And I happen to like Haneke's work (mostly). The thing that irks me in statements like this is, what exactly is being referred to by "American...cinema." American cinema is like American beer: you have the plain, unsophisticated but popular mass-produced stuff, but you also have hundreds if not thousands of micro-breweries, many of which are crafting unique and very fine brews that rival anything produced in Europe or beyond.

I'm going to assume he's referring not to American Independent cinema, but to "Hollywood", and to this I ask, "Why?" To raise a polemic against Hollywood is not only tired and banal, but pointless as well. It's tantamount to a cadre of famous art critics descending on a seven-year-old schoolgirl's crayon sketch, and trying to outdo each other with their scathing insight, all while making comparisons to Vermeer. Not only do they exist in different realms, like the little girl (but for different reasons), Hollywood is indifferent to the whinings of people like Haneke. They are not looking to make a "statement", except maybe to their shareholders.

A better analogy would be a critical comparison of Pop music to Jazz. The Hollywood movie, like popular music, is designed for appeal to the lowest common denominator, in the pursuit of profit, not art. Jazz is technically superior, but there are no jazz albums in the Top 40. If his [Haneke's] films are intended as "shots across the bow" of Hollywood cinema, I hope Haneke is not holding his breath waiting for an impervious and disinterested Hollywood to take notice.

The preceding should all be self-evident, but I'd also make note of the phrase:
"They are an appeal for a cinema of insistent questions instead of false (because too quick) answers..."

I think he may fail to realize that this doesn't necessary equate to more compelling cinema; many people still like to be entertained when they watch a film, and perhaps they're more than willing to pay a psychotherapist when they want "...provocation and dialogue instead of consumption and consensus."

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You would do well to remember how many and what type of American films are on release outside of America and from this you might better understand the perception held by many of the American film industry.

Entertainment is not divorced from reflectiveness in film though there are many blockbusters, mostly American, where such a separation is created, somewhat artificially.

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