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You think this movie has hardcore scenes?

posted 9 years ago by johnthedoe
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Im not gonna touch Jewish, Nazi subject.

I want to talk about a few scenes in this movie. Guy on a wheelchair, random shooting and similiar.

Shocking right?

How could a human being, from a civilized country, educated human being (officers needed to be) do something like this?

ITS NOTHING.

Nothing compared to what happened during ww2. You will never see a movie showing this because its just not possible to comprehend during our times.

Few nails, barn door, a 4 yo kid. Alive. - happened lots of times on the west border of poland.
Flamethrowers- check how they work.
First ever recorder firestorm = Oxygen burning. Meaning- everything burning. Even the air. Nothing like this ever happened before. (im always surprised that noone knows about this)
etc. Nuclear bombs. etc.

I mean, wtf? Do you get me? We (the people) make horror movies, we make thrillers. We cant touch the world war 2 subject.
People today cant understand this. Only movies that came out are about soldiers, which is like 10% of the war.
On the other front we have Pianist, Schindlers List - showing specific situation.

Oh and did you know that soldiers rescued from captivity (japan, germany) looked like skeletons and couldnt even hold a gun?
Where is that in any movie?

Where is a movie about the horrors of this war?
There are none, there wont be any. The whole point of this thread is that if you think you watched the Pianist and you think, oh my god how hard it was, i understand ww2 now- you and me, have no idea how it was. The point is that we have source materials and movies wont show that.

Some people, even soldiers here on this board, could say something about middle east. Its nothing compared to ww2.
Seriously. Im not talking about single battles - you had it much worse. Thank you for your service.
I mean the whole picture- world at war. I mean they *beep* used nuclear bomb, i mean experimenting on people, i mean massive genocide.

Im just saying this because of the other threads here and because i read a lot. And the point is- be thankful for your current life.

[–] VVolfySnackrib 9 years ago

Yes. And where is the rape of Germany after the war, some 1 - 2 million German women? Where is the Roosevelt death camps for German military and civilians alike that were under strict orders not to feed them? Where is the movie showing that Churchill, not Hitler, started the terror bombing of civilians, which Churchill did against Germany in much greater capacity than Hitler did against Britain? Not to mention the Bengal famine which Churchill refused to provide provisions for, resulting in between 5 - 8 million Indian deaths, because Churchill thought of Indianas as a people that "breed like rabbits".
And what about Truman who attempted to commit further ethnic cleansing of Germany in order to rid the world forever of the German people?
The Holocaust is by far not even remotely close to the worst holocaust of World War 2.

[–] johnthedoe 9 years ago

They won, they wrote the history. Thats it.
Your response- thats not what i mean. You could be right with current stream (lying) and yet you couldnt make a true (brutality itself) movie about ww2.
Which means its impossible to portray what happened really or what happened from different point of view.

"The Holocaust is by far not even remotely close to the worst holocaust of World War 2." - 100% agree. But, its most used phrase regarding ww2. Like it was 99% of the war. Like the war was only about killing Jews. Most of the people think that war started because Hitler was some villain from Bond movies.

Im not mad at anything, im just saying that if you think that after watching some war movies you think "oh my god, so awful", think again. Thats my point. Honestly its surprising that everything is quite normal after such a short time.

[–] aaronva 8 years ago

I love the fact that anyone thinks that if the US really ever wanted a nation, any nation, gone from the planet, that it could not accomplish it. God, nations must have some really good propaganda considering after the US you have to take the next 13 nations COMBINED to equal the US's military budget...and of those next 13 nations, 10 of them are close allies to the United States so that really kills any threat the US has at all, realistically...Sure, maybe China and Russia could go for a "draw," meaning, massive nuclear attacks destroying the entire planet, but outside of that, the US wins 10 times out of 10, hands down...we are more than 4 times richer than the next richest nation, China, we have a military that is about 5 times larger than the next largest military and ally-wise, we have more strong allies, moderate allies and the fewest enemies of almost any nation on the planet as well...I love how cute stupid people are...kinda like a dog that tilts their head...at least you're trying you Nazi piece of *beep*

[–] gss2 8 years ago

The Bengal famine was not the fault of the British administration. It was the fault of hoarders who anticipated a rise in the price of rice due to war demands. Congress just found it convenient to blame the British colonial government for the crisis and so they did.

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[–] gss2 8 years ago

You're right. There are much more harrowing events during World War 2 then what is depicted in The Pianist. The fire Bombing of Tokyo, Hamburg, and Dresden were some of the worst scenes. Yes, there were the millions of rapes committed by Soviet soldiers against German and Polish women. Nothing is shown of the horrors of the death camps, crematories, mass graves, and such in this film because Szpilman never went to the camps himself.

However, I give RP a lot of credit for showing the real tragedy of The Warsaw Rising of 1944. Few outside Poland know about that tragic event. I also give him a lot of credit for talking about the fate of POW slave laborers in the USSR during and after the war.

Good books to read about WWII: Norman Davies' "Rising '44" and "No Simple Victory", as well as Jan Tomasz Gross' "Fear" and "Neighbors".

[–] againstglobalism 8 years ago

As far as violence and murder goes...yeah, I'd say this movie has some pretty "hardcore scenes". Somewhat similar to Schindler's List, in regards to how the Nazis are depicted. The scene when the Nazis throw the wheelchair bound man out the window was brutal. There's a lot of other violent and disturbing scenes as well.

[–] gvkeitz 8 years ago

The scene that truly upsets me is right after he is saved from going on the train to his death, and his family goes, is when he walks up to the home of the former underground newspaper and it shows the entire family shot and bled-out on the sidewalk, including a small child and a toddler.