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2004* Coming Soon?


Hey, Billy, how about one called 2004*, huh? Just to recap how your beloved Yanks fell apart and made baseball history.

BTW, I thought you almost fell off that balcony in Game 7 (or maybe you wanted to kill yourself). If your team is down, tighten up your seat belt, would you?

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Still have 24 more than the Sox.

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24? last time i checked the red sox have won 7 and i'm pretty sure the yanks are still stuck on 26. if your gonna use that argument atleast get the number right. the yankees are 19 ahead.

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Still ahead.

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I'm no Yanks fan, but the Red Sox don't have bragging rights yet. In the past hundred years, How many times have they won the world series? Probably fewer than even the pathetic Florida Marlins have in the past 10 years.

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BOO HOO, WAH WAH, Y'all some 'lil bitches!

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Actually, becoming the first team to ever come back and win a best of seven series after being down 0-3 does give them bragging rights. They made the greatest comeback in teh history of the game, and the Yankees made the biggest choke in the history of the game.

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Hope those bragging rights gets them through the first few months of the season with Schilling being about as useful as a wet fart.


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well as the other person said, comeing back from 0-3 with the yanks made history, which is more than enough for braggin rights. but on another note, sox have been #1 and #2 in there league almost every year, granted they never won series. but still being on top all the time is still good haha.

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Just a thought: If we're truly into the post-steroid era, perhaps Roger Maris will still hold the American League home run record in 2061.

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Check again, the Sox have won 6. That puts NYY 20 ahead. "Stuck" on 26? You make me laugh. Any team in sports--professional or otherwise--would absolutely love to be "stuck" on 26 World Championships. Until the Sox, a team that has managed ONE World Series title since 1918, win another 20, I don't want to hear any smack from their fans.

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Yankees are still number 1, let the Red Sox fans celebrate this tiny vitory, they arent used to winning, so let them take this one

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Now I'm neither a Yankees nor Red Sox fan, but I just thought about this as I read the posts here. Sure the Yankees are without a doubt the most dominating team in the history of the game, whether anyone likes it or not, the facts speak for themselves. But, it just goes to show you, how that doesn't mean *beep* Not to discredit the Boston team or anything, I'm sure they deserved everything they got. After all they did win the World Series from what was thought to be a superior St. Louis team. But after the Yankees lost to them being three games ahead of them in the series, I ask any Yankees fan, how does it feel to lose to a so-called "inferior" team? Sure it was probably the greatest comeback in the history of the game, but Boston Redsox fans will always be seen as a bunch of cry babies. There's no such thing as a curse (sure I know the sport is probably the most supersticious as I played back in high shcool), Boston just made the stupidest mistake when they sold Ruth to the Yankees, whether they had kept him or not, the Yankees would have still won their twenty plus championships. It's just stupid how they base their failure on a single moment of stupidity from their history. All things aside, the Yankees did in fact choke, it almost made me feel a little better even with knowing that Atlanta chokes every single year in the playoffs, or at least it seems that way. If a team can't execute fundamental plays as a team, they will lose. Boston was just very good at this the past playoffs, and it paid off. All while the Yankees watched the rest of the playoffs from the comnfort of their luxury homes or whatever.

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In regards to the Curse thing:

I have never posted on this website before, but as a red sox fan i couldn't let this go. The curse was not made up by the Red Sox, the idea was made up by a pretty good writer with the eye for churning out crap like the Curse of the Bambino. Do you honestly believe anyone in their right mind that is associated with the red sox believes in the curse? Most red sox fans thinks all BS, the only reason you see those signs at the stadium is due to the fact that they know if they say something about the curse they will end up on tv.

Honestly, the best thing about Winning besides winning the world series, is that no one can ever bring in that freaking curse. I have probably heard that mentioned once maybe twice, but both times that was by some national guy, no sox fan ever mentions that crap.

Fin

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You idiot the sox have won more than 2 you knowedge just dosent go beyond 1918 oh i forgot all you yankee smucks are retarded

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Guys, guys, guys!! Did I miss something? I mean, I was under the impression that this forum was intended to host discussions about the movies!

"I've been smart; I recommend pleasant. You can quote me" - Elwood P. Dowd

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Excuse me? Last I checked, this board was for discussion of the film, not your dislike of Yankee fans, of which I am one.

Who cares who won more championships? The Yankees have 26, the Red Sox have 6. I didn't know this was a pertinent part of the discussion of a movie that has zip, zero, zilch to do with the Boston Red Sox.

Save the childish bickering and arguing for the children, okay? And grow up while you're at it.

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I think that was the point I was trying to make.

"I've been smart; I recommend pleasant. You can quote me" - Elwood P. Dowd

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Actually, the movie should be called 72* about how Barry Bonds record won't stand without an astirisk next to it. The cheater. Of course, McGuire's 70* would come in second. Should the real homerun record holder be Sammy Sosa? Or has Sosa used the 'roids too? Perhaps Roger Marris should still be the real record holder. Whoever it belongs too, it's most definitely not Bonds or McGuire.

C9S

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Yeah, lets go back into EVERY baseball player's life and see if they enhanced themselves with drugs even once...

Eveyrone does it now, it shouldn't matter.

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Or how about 2005* about how the mets got pedro, beltran, and manceiwitz (however you spell it) and won the World Series and kicked the yankees or the red sox into a rut they could never get out from, i say that would be a good movie

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mientkiewicz (he was so good for us last year, I LEARNED TO SPELL HIS NAME. not that hard if you respect someone.)
right now, i would like to thank the yankees and their fans, for giving the recently champion-made red sox (and fans) a perfect example of what NOT to become. after the ecstacy of winning had worn off, i was afraid that we would morph into arrogant, bragging a-holes who cling to past victories for all of eternity. i just hope that we can learn from your mistakes (and here's where someone points out that those "mistakes" won them all those championships. money isn't a mistake). i would MUCH rather be the underdog. not the loser, not the dynasty, but the underdog. no, we don't have retired dynasty bragging rights. we have comeback, work hard, overcome odds, and WIN bragging rights, which we will not exploit forever.
and for the whole "curse" thing, i was never big on it, and i AM superstitious. and a little OCD on rituals. i've heard an interesting theory that it comes from the previous New England inhabitors, the Puritans. you know...if you get sick, someone cursed you and she's a witch and should be burned. if the sox lose, there's a curse and we should always sit in the same seat when we watch the game to break it.
pity about pedro...he was so good for us. i heard about his comments, but i still haven't brought myself to read them, and i don't think i'll ever be able to watch him in a met's uniform. same as nomar. just the thought of him doing his little hand thing for the cubs made me sadder than ever. i truly love our team and our players, win or lose. that's just something i can't imagine yankees fans having. i never want to be that; loving the wins, not the team.

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are you serious? i'll give you the ws the red sox won last year, but that still makes 1 in the past 86 years. the yankees have so much history, so many great moments, players, and games, that no other team in any professional sport ocmpares.

as for the red sox, i jsut have to say this. what aaron boone did was the most heartbreaking then i've ever seen happen to a team. if it happened to anyone else, it would easily be the worst moment in the history of that team. but with the red sox, it doesn't crack the top 5.

red sox fans, i acknowledge the fact you won, now shutup. comparing your team to the yankees is liek comparing a nail to a hammer.

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i think ted williams is overated..blown way out of proportion.

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Look, this statement about Ted Williams being overrated is just dumb. A real fan, no matter if he's from Boston, New York, or all parts elsewhere, knows that is not true.
I also agree with the posts that if there were to be a sequel to the movie the title would have to be 73*, 70*, or even 61 (without the asterisk, obviously).

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yeah i agree. I've been a die hard Yankee fan my whole life and i still respect Ted Williams as one of the greatest players to ever play the game.

Personally i'd like to see a movie about the night when the Yankee's GM got drunk with the Red Sox's GM and they verbally agreed to a trade of Ted Williams for Joe DiMaggio, which they eventually wrote down on a napkin. Then they woke up in the morning and they realized how stupid that would be and promptly threw out the napkin. But imagine what that conversation must have been like. And imagine how much that would have affected baseball history. I think this might make a kind of funny bizarre short film. You could call it "9 for 5" or "5 for 9" or something (as long as everyone's suggesting numerical titles).

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I like the Red Sox, because when they win it pisses off the yankees.I hate New York, and I hate the Yankees.

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Currently Red Sox are 5.5 games ahead of the Yankees, and have worked very well without Schilling, and they will win the Wrold series this year, and Yankees wont even be in the playoffs. So all you yankee fans can suck my *beep* dick u *beep* Red sox won. A-Rod cheats. And Giambi loves steroids.

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It'll give me more pleasure to see Yankees shut out from the playoffs than to see the Sox win another WS. Damn Yankees and Steinbrenner!!!

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Don't cry because he plays by the rules. Every team wishes they had an owner like George.

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Well look at it this way, we here in New York have a lot of great baseball movies. We have The Babe, 61*, Pride of the Yankees, even the last few minutes in Anger Management. And then the Red Sox have... Fever Pitch. I'm not taking anything away from the Red Sox, 2004 was their year but the way 2005 ended and suddenly a lot of good players were traded away, that's not cool at all. Not the players but whoever traded them really needs to wake up. So what if they didn't win another world series and got swept in the playoffs, does that mean the entire season was a waste? Hell no. I'm no Red Sox fan but come on! Show some faith in the team.

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Don't forget "Fear Strikes Out". It's about Red Sox outfielder Jimmy Piersal.

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Actually, the movie should be called 72* about how Barry Bonds record won't stand without an astirisk next to it. The cheater. Of course, McGuire's 70* would come in second. Should the real homerun record holder be Sammy Sosa? Or has Sosa used the 'roids too? Perhaps Roger Marris should still be the real record holder. Whoever it belongs too, it's most definitely not Bonds or McGuire.


Every record held before baseball was intergrated deserves an * in my opinion. Not having to face negro league players who were just as good if not better than a large number of people in the major leagues at that time is a far bigger help in setting records than any drug or steriod in my opinion.

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I don't understand the point of the OP. This movie is about one of the great times in baseball history, before the game was tainted and when the game itself meant even more than the money. This is a movie that is made not just for Yankee fans, but any fan of baseball or the spirit of sports in general. I hope that all Red Sox fans are not this stupid.

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Most Red Sox fans I don't think are that stupid. It's the denizens of that phony media hot air creation of "Red Sox Nation" who generally are though. That group for decades has been covering up the failures of their franchise before 2004 with falsehoods about Harry Frazee selling Babe Ruth to finance a play. Not to mention whitewashing the ineptitude of St. Thomas Yawkey, the last owner to integrate in baseball, and whose 43 years of inept ownership was then followed by his leaving the team to a trust that retarded the franchise for decades afterwards. And then there's the matter of how Red Sox Nation types will make a hero out of Spaceman Bill Lee, the druggie choke artist of Game 7 of the 1975 World Series, who singlehandedly kept Boston from ending their drought 29 years sooner with one eephus pitch to Tony Perez, and then further cover-up for him by whitewashing his stinko pitching in 1978 and crucify Don Zimmer for not using him down the stretch when he was useless at that point. Red Sox Nation types will also snarl about the "cheap" home run Bucky Dent hit (their permanent middle name for Bucky is the ultimate testament to their all-around classlessness) even though it was no different from any other home run that goes over their precious Green Monster, and all around never once be man enough to admit that their 86 years of futility wasn't the result of any curses, or evilness coming out of New York, but their own pathetic fault. And the only reason why they finally ended their 86 years of bad baseball was when they finally got out from under the Yawkey Trust ownership, and started emulating the Yankee model more, which like it or not is a formula for WINNING. The real question I have as a Yankee fan, why did it take you guys 86 years to figure out how baseball is supposed to be played? A little less wallowing in non-existent curses and moaning about non-existent Evil Empires, and a little more focus on your own faults and you'd today be celebrating as many championships as we Yankee fans do! :)

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