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Harvey Lipshculz, why still teaching?


I watch this show when I can. I think it's a well acted, and all around good show, but it's usually aired in the daytime here, which makes my viewing of it pretty sporadically. I'm from Denmark myself, and I don't know anything else about high shcools in the States, than what I've seen on TV, and I have wondered a bit about the character Harvey Lipshculz.
Why has this guy not retired yet?
Did his pension go down the drain, or does he just like to teach?

Do teachers this old, really teach in high schools in the States?

Just wondering...

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People in their 70s or 80s and still teaching is unlikely but not impossible.

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The professor in my Shakespeare class was an 80 year old nun. I thought she was awesome. Man she knew a lot about Shakespeare and the back stories behind the plays. Hell, she was old enough to had been there.


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if you look at teachers in general. a lot may retire but you may still find some who want to continue teaching. besides Harvey Lipschultz was my favorite teacher. he was pretty outspoken. cannot imagine anyone retiring him without a fight. he could be so funny. I liked the episode when he announced to the class that he was George Washington I think reincarnated. of course he got what he wanted the kids went home and studied about George Washinton to try and debunk him. and shot facts or fiction about GW. that was pretty clever.

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Dont get me wrong, I definitely think he is one of the most interesting characters on the show, and despite his antics he's a very clever man :) In my opinion, teachers this age can actually be much better than younger teachers.
There is a lot one can learn from someone, who has seen everything there is to see, and it can be a great thing to have a teacher that has lead a long life full of experiences.

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Personal opinion I have with old teachers is that they are very old-fashioned and simply lack when it comes to pedagogics. Not one teacher older than 40 I had was good but one, and that's only because she had some sort of relevation at the end of her career and started to teach completely opposite of what she had been doing previously.

It may be I just found all the bad apples in the basket and not a good one, but this is my general experience and I still resent anything with old teachers in it. Generally I feel they just cannot teach me.

Two of my French teachers were both close to retire and it's because of them I cannot speak a word French up to this day. Schools should really look into that and actually ask the STUDENTS what we think of our teachers. It's highly relevant whether the students actually learn something. I know I certainly didn't, and it's on the school's responsibility to make sure I do. And if a school hires a bad teacher, it's the school's responsibility to fix it.

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I had a cousin who was involved in a "save his job" campaign for an English teacher who the school board was trying to force to retire because of his age.

I had a World Literature teacher in HS who was kinda like Harvey Lipshculz, she was old and her mind was starting to go. On the second day of class she changed all of our assigned seats (which she liked to keep alphabetical order) because the list that she started with (which had been printed before the actual semester had started) had been changed around as the administrators had to fine tune kids' schedules.) That was normal and expected but than the next day we came in and she insisted that we were sitting in the wrong seats and made us move back to the first configuration. Than the next day she told us we were in the wrong seats and made us move back to the second configuration. This went on for about a week. When we tried to tell her that she kept moving us back and fourth because clearly she was working off of two different lists she insisted that there was only one assigned seating list and we were the ones who kept sitting in the wrong seats.

That was just the beginning of it. When we read the Odyssey she kept switching from Greek to Roman mythological names. Our book listed the Greek names but she kept jumping into Roman ones in mid-lesson. For example the book said "Zeus" but she would often say "Jupiter," same with "Poseidon" and "Neptune" or even "Odysseus" for "Ulysses." Actually she almost always said Ulysses, even though the book said Odysseus; I think because the Kirk Douglass movie (which we did watch at the end of the semester) calls his character Ulysses (the Roman name) but sticks to the Greek names for the rest of the characters. It was incredibly confusing for most of the students, not the least of which because she spoke with a country accent that barely even sounded like English for most of us suburban kids that made up her class.

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I envy you Director, the loss in education must have been more than made up for by the sheer entertainment value.



Some people say I'm robbing the cradle, but I like to think that she's robbing the grave!

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I remember in one episode he said that he lost money in some kind of investment. But it was mentioned in several episodes that he really enjoyed teaching and continued. There were a few professors at my college that were in their late 70's. My high school employed older retired teachers to sub for teachers who were going to be out more than two days in the row. The school did this so students wouldn't be behind on work if a regular teacher was going to be gone for than two days. During my senior year of high school my regular precalculus teacher had a daughter with cancer so he missed two weeks of work. During that our class was taught by a 73 year retired math teacher. He was pretty cool and was a great teacher. I liked the Harvey character a lot he was funny and blung in a lot of ways.

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In my experience, I had different types of teachers, such as young teachers who THOUGHT that they were better than everyone else and elderly teachers who actually treated us as though we were their own children or grandchildren. I couldn't stand those who acted like they were better. I would think, "He says he's so high and mighty, well I'd love to kick his ass." With Harvey Lipshculz, he DID teach the kids. It's true that his comments were unprofessional, but there are teachers who say way worse things than that, and they are still teaching. Other teachers and principals would say, "They do have the right to express themselves because it's freedom of speech."

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I've seen it not only in teaching but other professions as well. Even retail management. Up in ND we had a store manager who was 80 years old before she finally retired. I know some people in Harvey's position having no family don't retire because the school is there family. Why go home just to sit in an empty house??? I can't say I disagree with their opinion. I wouldn't want that.

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